20VC: Atlassian CEO on Why Agents Won't Replace Interfaces | Why Enterprises Won't Trust Chinese Models | Why The Jury Is Still Out On The Benefits of Specialised Models with Mike Cannon-Brookes

If you're giving up on your user interface, if you're giving up on evolving your experience for a customer, I think that's a brainless bet. I don't think agents will replace all the interfaces. For the first time in a long time, we're solvational design challenges again. There is certainly some customer pushback in some places to quote unquote Chinese models. There is not customer pushback to open models. The jury is really out on the benefits of building specialized models at the moment. Right now, the production of technology is faster than the consumption of technology. We're moving from a world of information asymmetry. Tree to imagination asymmetry. This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stabbings. So in today's show, we sit down with Mike Cannon Brooks, founder and CEO at Atlassian, to discuss what happens to traditional software in a world where agents are able to extract information from databases. Do they still carry value? Where is enduring value in a world of agents? How does Atlassian think about building the contact slayer that will power enterprise AI agents. And what does this mean for the next generation of enterprise software? This and so much more in an incredibly revealing, but also just awesome discussion with Mike. I've known him for years. He's an incredible dude and this was so much fun to record.

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