Most Replayed Moment: Tony Robbins Reveals The Key To A Meaningful Life

0:00 Uh In a world of um in a world of challenging meaning, where a lot of a lot of my viewers are struggling with meaning, one of the things I've noticed is that it appears, especially with young men who you talked about earlier, They it appears that more and more of them are turning to religion. And you mentioned your your faith in God there. It's a really interesting phenomenon for me that I've observed in my own life. I've talked about this a few times. Um certain friends of mine who were very individualistic They were living the dream in any way that you might define it. You know, they had money, they had freedom, they had no boss. No dependents, no no partner, and suddenly you see their life turn into

0:37 What looks like depression, a form of depression. And absence of meaning in their lives. And I I I I wanted to just to throw this out there because we we are in a society that's um I think increasingly encouraging Independent Yes. And there's upsides to independence, of course, we all understand those. But I wondered if there's a sort of a double edged sword here when we're Wait, w you kind of said it earlier about making the world more about just me, me, me, and I. And in a world of abundance, I imagine many more people are gonna choose

1:03 To make it about I, I, I, I, I'cause they ca'cause they can. I could put a headset on, but theoretically, never leave my house. Someone can literally put the a robot puts the food in my mouth. I could have some sex robot that just gets me off. Uh money my account by UBI. The reason your friends got depressed I've had this happen, I've seen this as well. I you know, most of my friends are older than I am usually for some reason I gravitated to to men that were eighteen, twenty years my senior, who brilliant and uh learning from them and seeing where they're going in their life and so forth.

1:32 But I watch something like sell their company and make a billion two. And then they were happy for like a month maybe and they'd call me, let's go to this, go do that, and you know, try to go from something but I got you know I got a lot of companies, got a lot of kids, I got a lot of things, right? And it's like and eventually they all want to get back in the game. Because We have six human needs.

1:51 Certainty? Uncertainty? Because think about this. If you were certain every moment of your life, you know what someone's gonna say, and I'm sure you've had this somewhat. You know what they're gonna say before they're gonna say it. But if you knew what someone say before what they're gonna say, you know what's gonna happen for what's gonna happen every moment of every day, in the beginning it'd be cool. Then after a while, what would you feel?

2:10 Out of your mind board. So God in her infinite wisdom gave us uncertainty. We nід variety, we nід surprise. So I ask people stadium fifteen thousand people and I say, How many of you love surprises? And everybody raised their hand, Yay and I I go bullshit. You have the surprises you want. There's prices you don't want you call problems, but we need those too.

2:32 Right? Third need is significance. They need to feel unique, you need to feel special, they need to feel important. Who do you think has that need? Uh all of us. Everyone. Yeah. Now some people like Donald Trump is pretty obvious, right? And some people though it's like I don't want significance, I don't want to be I don't want to be special. That's only because they feel they get special if they get attacked.

2:51 Right. Every some people do it by earrings, some people buy tattoos in certain areas. Some by knowing bot s box scores about a sport more than anybody else. Some people by their art, some people by the way they dress, some people by their money, some people be more generous. Everyone finds a way. Okay. However, some people do it through violence. Okay. So let me give you another seed.

3:12 Why has violence always been with us? If I feel I'm insignificant. And this is, by the way, even more powerful m in most men's cases because of the nature of testosterone. Right? Stosterm is about significance. It's about

3:25 Being dominant. Right. So If I'm uh I'm in a community and I'm driving by or I'm walking by this community and it's a tough community, a tough environment.

3:34 Somebody comes up with a gun to my head. I've never met him in my life. Why? Well, first of all, how certain do you think that person is you're gonna respond when they put a gun to your head? Before you may not have paid attention to them, but you're gonna pay attention now. How significant are they in your life on a zero to ten scale with that gun to your head? They're the most significant thing on earth.

3:53 And by the way, every time it's a little different, they give variety. Any time you meet a belief an emotion or a behavior meets at least three of these six needs, you will become addicted to that thought, that feeling, or that behavior. It could be a positive one or a negative one, but you will become addicted to it. So Violence.

4:10 But you can also get significance by tearing other people down. So why do we have so many warriors in their little house, you know, doing their little virtual signaling, doing what they're doing?'Cause they've never done anything with their life. And it used to be I'd have to confront you. Now I don't confront you, I don't even know who I am. I can say all this terrible shit and I'm sitting in my place and make my seal feel significant,'cause I've make you smaller, I'm bigger.

4:35 It's why uh social media is so terrible. There's great things in social media. It's what's so terrible about it. It's like People now can meet their need for significance without much effort. No consequence. You come and say this directly to me. You're gonna pay a price of some sort. Right? That's no longer there.

4:50 No. Fourth me connection and love. Everybody wants love. Most people settle for connection'cause they've had love at one point and it was so painful when it ended, they decided to settle for connection. How can you get it? You can get it by going for a run and feeling connected to God of the universe, nature. You can get it by prayer. You can get it by uh being with some friends, you can get it by making love, you can get it by getting a dog, if nothing else, get a dog, don't get a cat, cats leave, but you know, dogs you leave for two minutes, it's like you've been gone for six months, they'll make you feel very loved.

5:21 There's a million ways to feel connection and love. Some are positive, some are negative. Some people get connected by their problems. They're always comparing problems. You ever seen two people comparing but I have this, well you think that's bad. Let me tell you mine. They're arguing over significance and they're connecting through their problems. Right. Drug on earth? Is not

5:41 Cocaine. It's not Fentanyl. It's not Nope. It's problems. 'Cause the deepest fear everybody has is they're not enough.

5:49 And our deeper fear is if we're not enough, we won't be loved. I've never met a human being, and I've worked with kings, queens Winners of everything in Imagine Academy Awards, scientists There's some point in which you might feel for someone you care about most that you're not Smart enough, young enough, old enough.

6:05 Pretty enough, funny enough, rich enough. Playful enough, something enough, and it is the worst feeling on earth. To feel like you are unloved and worthless is internal death. So people come up with a story it's just because I have You know, um I have this dyslexia, that's why. Or it's because I was raped, and maybe they really were raped. I'd like to kill the guy that hurt them.

6:25 But that's not why they're feeling what they're feeling right now. It's because they're fearful. And so w if you have a big problem, that's why I'm not where I want to be. It's not that I'm not enough and not worthy of love. And so people use problems the way to connect. Now these first four needs certainty, uncertainty, you can see how they have a conflict. But if you ever

6:43 Rent in a movie you've already watched? Yeah. Get a life? I have two. Why would we do that? 'Cause we're certain it's good. But it's been long enough that we hope it's been there's a variety that we won't remember it to all have a variety once again. So you can meet multiple needs through the same task potentially.

7:00 But certainty, uncertainty. Significance Or you are in Hollywood. Why do people Come to Hollywood. Be famous since you're going to be able to do it, right?

7:10 They don't what that really is. If they did some of them would move away from it. But significance is what they're looking for. But what they really want is love. That's what everybody wants. But you know what the problem is? They think if they're significant, everyone's gonna love them. And I get these clients Without mentioning any names, the biggest names in Hollywood, the biggest names in sports. And you know what their number one thing is? They're angry.

7:32 Why are they angry? Because they thought if I'm significantly love me and now they go People rip me online, they interrupt me with my family trying to have dinner. They don't give a shit about me. They just want a picture, they just want this, and if I don't do it, they write that about me. They care about themselves. They care about themselves. And so what happened is I thought by being significant I would be loved.

7:51 And now I'm super significant and I'm not loved, I'm attacked. Because The more you try and push your significance on someone, the less significant they make you. If you love someone There's nothing more significant than that. True love. Not A trade.

8:04 Not all of you if you give me something. Genuine love. And if that happens, you become significant in people's lives. But that's the number one challenge in this community. So significant love have attack. If you're significant, you're the individual. But I need to be connected. Well if I'm so connected, who am I?

8:19 And that's the pool. The secret to it all are the final two needs. These are the spiritual needs, not religious, but spiritual. And that is we all must grow. When you grow you feel alive. And if you don't grow you start to die inside.

8:32 And this isn't my rule. Everything in the universe or dies, as you well know. This is the law of the universe. If your relationship's not growing, it's dying. Don't bullshit yourself. If your business is not growing, you're a businessman, you know, it is not growing, it is dying. You better do something now, right? But we grow. So we have something finally to give. Which is where meaning comes in life.

8:51 when I grow I have something more to give, and if I can give that to someone, then my life is more meaningful than just the pleasure of I have the machine that, you know, makes me feel pleasure in certain parts of my body and feeds me in all the things you talked about. If you went to Vegas And you pull down that, you know, that little joke box thing. And you get boom boom boom bars bars bars.

9:12 What's your reaction? Amazing. Amazing. And then you pull it a second time and you get it again. Amazing. They did it a third time. They did it again. That's amazing. And now you do a hundred times.

9:25 Yeah, that's amazing. And now what you have is a job. You do this and you got a predictable outcome. The fact that you don't know what the outcome is, th that's the jackpot in it to get someone hooked on anything. That's what makes it significant,'cause it's scarce. Right. When you do this, if I said to you Osama Bin Laden

9:44 What would you say is top need driving force? Was it certainty? Was it variety? Was it significance? Was it love? Was it growth or contribution? I'd say probably significant. Twenty seven children? I literally was twenty seven children. He was a nobody. He took his dad's money. He was not very religious. And he went to Afghanistan and he used his money and became significant. Not by shooting people, he provided resources.

10:11 And then all of a sudden his entire life changed. How do you know? The most significant thing is he sent other people to die. He didn't go to die. It's on other people. Now His number one drive is significant and his way of doing it was to get other people to die.

10:25 On that same day nine eleven There were men and women in the fire department and police department who went into those buildings knowing it A good chance they would die to save a stranger. Also driven by significance but with different rules. If I die a hero, my life is meaningful.

10:42 And that's a meaningful life. So People can even have the same need structure. But their beliefs about how to meet those needs are the most important thing. And

10:51 The needs of connection and love. Growth and contribution have no downside. Certainty make if you have certainty is your number one thing, you're always trying to keep life the same way and you're gonna be stressed out. Especially with AI, you're gonna be really stressed out. If you're a variety person, you can have a lot of fun. But eventually it's not much variety. The life you described for all these people, now they have the money, they have the sex, they have this, they have that, they have the women, they have the notoriety, they have the Academy Ward. It all gets old.

11:18 Because if we're not growing it doesn't matter. How many people do you know that were famous, who were rich, who had supposedly everything people want and took their own life? Why they take their life. They stop growing and stop having a sense of meaning by giving. You can show I can show you example after example of people. So These need structures

11:39 We can meet certainty right now very easily by going online and controlling our communication. That's why people text. That's much easier than communicating back and forth with someone, right? We can get variety by going online so easily now. We can get significant, tear other people down, or work on something significant, we think, right? AI, explore the world. We can get a sense of connection through people online. Or through a robot. Or these days people have an AI and they talk to it like it's their boyfriend or girlfriend,'cause it totally affirms them. They say something idiotic and they tell you you're so smart. You better, right? But you're missing growing and contributing.

12:14 If you're missing growing contributing, you will not feel fulfilled. You as a person, if I've read your books correctly and I didn't read them all, but I've had pieces of it, probably the best lesson you got early in life was There's the science of achievement, there's the art of fulfillment. They're two different skills. If you want to shorten a life, you need both. You go to the east, they're really great about fulfillment, they can live in poverty and feel

12:37 Totally happy and connected to God or the universe. You come here and and people can have an incredible external life, but their internal life often not so nice. They get really pissed off because they didn't get their special sauce on their burger, right? It's a different world. I believe you can merge those two. How? You master the science of achievement. There are rules to achieve, as you well know. You wrote a whole book with thirty three rules in it. Me too. Right, so I know those rules. I know I wrote books on finance, three of them. I want an answer, is it still possible to win the financial game, because so many young people think it can't be done. So I interviewed fifty of the greatest financial people alive today. All started with nothing, all billionaires, nobody from the Lucky Spur Club. They all did it on their own. Ray Dalio, Carl Icon, Warren Buffett, all of them.

13:17 And guess what I found? They're all different, but I'm a modeler. I found the strategies that are common between them. And I applied them. I taught other people? Wrote the books, but I apply them myself, and that's how my businesses and my life grew geometrically. I modeled, I didn't have to learn on my own experience. You follow? I've got to ask you some questions on those two points. So on these six needs, because I also want to ask you about the the fifty rich people that you've you've interviewed for the books, but on those six needs. When you look at someone like me and you look at the broad world that I'm heading towards as a thirty thirty year old man

13:47 What? What configuration of these needs? Well I'll tell you what creates all the pain first. Okay, please. So if I go to a room and I'll say, I uh I explained these needs like I have, I know this is kind of lecture here. I didn't mean to be that, but I just want to share because I'm so passionate about it. And I'll get people to understand what they are and then I ask them. I want you to write down what you think your top two needs have been, not in what you want.

14:10 But in the way you've been living. Because people may want love but they think they have to be significant before they can get it. Or they might want love, but they want certainty that love will never go away. You follow me? And so that modifies things. I'll say so. The way you've lived the way you've lived where we've been the top two. And then I say I want you to write a paragraph about what's the downside of having that one so high on your list. And

14:33 It's amazing. So then I say Now write what you think your list top two should be to go to the next level of your life. Okay. That's how they do that. What do you think your top two as you do in the which I love. I love how active you are. So what would you say your top two have been up until now?

14:49 I think if I'm being completely honest. And you are. You're not bothing about Google makes a good. Especially from where I You know where I came from. Yeah. That was the big problem was you know being different and n and not in a good way. And then I would say um Interestingly, it feels like uncertainty and significance are really, really high for me because Yes. I've

15:24 For some reason I have a ver a huge appetite for uncertainty. Yeah, well but you're wired that way in a beautiful way. It also leads to learning for you. That's one of your vehicles for learning, is it not? Yeah. Yeah. Dropping out of school, stopping going to school when I was younger, dropping out of university. Yeah, yeah. Um quitting jobs where you know I shouldn't have qu quit them after a month. Which by the way, if certainty was your top need, would you have done that? No. No, completely. So that you understand this these are I'm talking about the six controlling forces of your life. There's a million stories about your life, but there's only six reasons you do anything. Yeah.

15:56 What would you say would be the downside of that? But but upsides, right? Yeah. We we're sitting here because of upsides. Your desire for significance made you look for significant ideas, signification, succeed in moving. Significance is valuable, period. Everyone should want it. But it's the sequence. So if it's the top of your list, what's the downside? For me it costs me connection and love and all these and some of these other opportunities. That's correct. Which is what you really want underneath it all. Yeah.

16:27 Your desire for significance really came from the fact that you were not loved and connected by people. People judge you the color of your skin. They put you in a community where you were different. You were outside the so it's like I'll show them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Which by the way is a very healthy response. Right. But now this stage of your life. Yeah. This is the gift that you have now at this stage of your life, right? You're entering the second season, right? Yeah. Now you don't have to be driven by that anymore. You already are significant. Like what more are you gonna do that's not significant? I'm sure you'll find more significant things to do, but

16:59 You've done so many significant things. You've helped millions of people, I'm sure, through your insights, your elements, you've written books, you've built businesses. And you're only thirty three years old. It's pretty It's been awesome. Right.

17:09 Now you get the leisure of being able to sit back and say, now with a greater level of consciousness, what would ideally be my top two? What would you say your top two need to be to have the next level of your life, to go to the next level for you? It's really easy for me to answer this question. Connection and love and the the need to grow and give. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, well those are two different ones. Uh growth and contribution. Of of those two, which one do you think is even more important for you? Oh God, of those two? Yeah. It's hard because one you can see as a vehicle to the other. Yeah, exactly. I understand that, but I'm asking a different question. I'm saying which is more important to feel, experience.

17:42 It would be contribution. Yeah. So for you, you're saying love and contribution? I'm saying love and contribution. In what order? Love first and then contribution. It's a good choice.

17:55 I tried my head I tried the other way round and I thought no it's almost like that like monks have said to me many years ago that you need to fill up your cup so you have something to pour out for others. Yes. And that's what I was thinking of. I was thinking it doesn't work the other way around. I for most of my life was Contribution first and then love. It was my way of earning love. Uh and so like I'd be on stage for thirteen hours and this is before people had phones and everybody wants to sign something and give me a hug. I work my guts out and then that was my take it in time. So I'd be there, finish at one thirty or two in the morning, and I'd be there till three thirty, till every person had an autograph, got you know their hug and everything else. Now his picture is a lot faster. But that was my life. I met my wife, Sage.

18:36 Changed my entire life. She didn't care if that I was Tony Robbins, she just loved me. And all of a sudden I never thought twelve thousand, fifteen thousand, twenty thousand people could

18:47 Of love pouring out you could compare one person compare, but Way beyond that. So now I finished it and when I give my guts, I go to one in the morning. But then I get up and I leave. I take pictures in the middle of the day, but then I leave at that time and I go and be with my wife. And it switched where love is there because think about this, if contribution is first, and this is what a lot of people do. Then

19:08 It's a way to protect yourself from feeling rejected. Cause if I I'm always giving to you truly generously over beyond what you can imagine, and then you treat me like shit, well then you're clearly the problem. Right? I don't have to think I'm not enough. So but the more honest way is love, because if it's love first, now I'm giving'cause I want to, not'cause I have to. Mm-hmm. Does that make sense? So tell me how you think that would change your life if you made love and contribution your top two and the way you actually live. 'Cause you already value love and contribution, but if they were the highest priority How would it shift your life for the better in your mind?

19:39 I feel like I would be significantly less stressed. You are correct. You are absolutely correct. So when I ask the audience this, I have them write down. And I've got fifteen thousand people. And I'll say okay. How many have certainty on your list? And they've come to an event that has a firewalk.

19:57 Right. And you get like Fifty, sixty percent of the room's on the top in their top two of their list, right? Because it's the in our culture, it's still the most important one. It's the foundational one, it's the one that's gonna have the biggest problem with AI,'cause they want things to stay the same and life isn't. The only thing that's for certain is change. And now rapid change, like geometrically rapid change. Okay, variety, small number, significant through the roof. Social media has made significance. disproportionate in our culture and it's why people are so unhappy.

20:24 You used to maybe compare most yourself to your neighbors or your friends. Now you compare yourself to a billionaire of which there's only three thousand. Right. And so you're like my life's not that great anymore. Or you compare it to pictures that have been doctored. I friend of mine owns a gym and he says, So you can't believe that women and men come in here who are Influencers. They lay everything out.

20:44 And then they do their video and they never work out. They're twenty seven years old. They don't have to work out for shit. I mean it's like they do a minimum workout. They got jeans, they're just fine. They don't even do the workout. It's all pictures, it's all bullshit, right? You know, he goes, It makes me so mad because you know real people there are working hard to make something happen. So y that's why people get so women especially depressed comparing themselves to images that are not even real, right? It's it's totally absurd. So When I do with the audience, though. Certainty and significance is eighty percent of the room.

21:13 Right? There's growth people, contribution people, but that's the dominant force because of our cultural conditioning and because certainty is basically a survival tool. Then I've asked them to do what you did. And I say, okay, tell me I don't tell them anything, like I didn't tell you anything. And then I say, Okay, who has certainty on their list now? In a room of fifteen thousand people, twelve thousand people, there might be like five. Okay, there's five people that really don't like pain, so I'll point that out to them and they look at me and then I go, Okay, how many got you know variety, it'll be more variety. How many got significance? The number plummets.

21:44 Just like it did with you. People I didn't tell them anything. Their own intelligence knows this, right? How many got love? Through the roof, right? Contribution through the roof. Growth through the roof. Those are the ones that expand. And then we show people how to condition that though,'cause it's one thing to know it. It's another thing to start training it in your body to make those priorities happen in your life, right? Just like any other habit, working out or anything else. You have to build the neurology of that. You have to practice putting yourself in those states over and over again where you make the value based on love or you make the value based on contribution. See, before You do something to be significant and you miss out on some of the love. Now Love is probably always what you wanted. That's why you can make that decision so quickly.

22:24 Right. But now I'm gonna go for that first, not this security route. By the way, you will still be significant. You'll be loving first and you'll be contributing and that will make you significant. Is it really possible to change like That that deeply.

22:37 No, not at all. I've never been able to do that and No, no, I asked you. I've never seen that happen. No, I I was I was thinking really, really deeply about what you were saying, and I was thinking there will be some people that are listening. And I think there was maybe a part of me, my consciousness that's like Because I Because that's a journey I've never gone on before. I've never shifted from Well you're not gonna do it by discussion. You have to have leverage.

23:02 Leverage is uh you have to have something you value more than your present way of doing things. Leverage can be pain or pleasure, right? So my fiance. I I understand how you got to LA. Her love, her happiness, her joy. Oh, that's beautiful. It's a fair girl. You and Sage. You're good at putting people's state with their pictures. That's impressive.

23:28 Yeah, I love her so much. We've been together twenty five years. I love her more today than ever before. She is a force in nature, this woman. Really, really great. But yes, she's leveraging my life. My my my youngest daughter's massive leverage, you know, is four and a half years old. It's beautiful. But I'll give you an example. I had I worked with a woman one time on stage and

23:46 She was um colon therapist and Uh, vegan and you know, so but she was always sick'cause she's so stressed all the time, trying to be perfect at everything. There's just constriction in her body, right? And um And the level of stress was just ridiculous, right? So I was trying to get her to see have some other options about what to do, without boring with the whole story.

24:07 I'm looking for leverage always. That's how you get someone to make a change. You gotta get make change a must, not a should. Not me making it to you. If I put a gun to your head, that's leverage. But some people rather die than been to your will. You have to find out what moves that person. It's unique for everyone, not what motivates them. I hate the word motivation, I've never used it. I wanna know your drives. Look, if you're fat, you're motivated to eat. I want to know what's underneath. I want to know those the drives are. So this woman I'm trying to help her make changes and I show her of these things and see the consequences and she wouldn't change, wouldn't change. So finally I I said, Man, I gotta push this lady. It's like

24:40 I said How long? I wouldn't tell her this. I ask. I said. How long with a person with a level of stress with these things you're doing and these Elements.

24:50 How long will a person like that live if they don't change? And she paused and she thought and she said Probably to thirty five. How old are you? Thirty two.

25:02 Okay, she's gonna change now. Maybe she's gonna do it, right? That's the leverage. She's gotta change. Bro can't change. I just can't. It's just how my life is. I said, Well I said This session is on videotape, you know?

25:16 And I said How do you think your daughter's gonna feel when she's carrying your coffin and she knows that you knew you could shift this and you didn't? This is pretty intense. I mean she thinks she's gonna die if she doesn't do it, she probably could. So I'm picking up Big leverage, right?

25:32 'Cause I know that's that's horrible, but it I can't change. Holy shit, she's not gonna change here. What the hell's gonna change her? And then I said to her, I said.

25:44 Yeah. What if her new mother's a meat eater? And she exploded on stage. That is not happening. I will not make this happen. I mean she went berserk and she goes, Fine, I'm changing this now. Like there is always leverage. There is something that will make change a must and not a should. Change is never a matter of ability. It's always a matter of strong enough reasons.

26:07 If you got strong enough reasons, you can do just about anything. But if you have weak reasons, you're not gonna do anything. So the fact that you understand this is our discussion. In an event You'd be in a Rabbit peak state and I take you through a process of consequence. Where you will envision what the consequences are, and then you can make that shift. And you still gotta condition it. This specific change is the hardest one.

26:29 I think a lot of people might say I was thinking forward as m life events to come and Becoming a father. Yes. That will do that will absolutely shift a lot of people. Becoming a father, getting married. Falling in love. There's certain events. Losing people will make you reevaluate things. Hitting a birthday, you know, you're thirty three, when you hit your fortieth birthday, I'm sure you don't think it will be any different. I remember t people telling me that.

26:52 But you tend to re evaluate For some weird reason our culture and after forty usually a five year or a fifty year, sixty year. Yeah, it's just part of the way we look at life. It's there's a process you go through and there'll be different things that trigger you. But When you want a real lasting change, you have to change the driving force. When we change these, it's changing your values.

27:15 Think about how your brain is a predictor and it's trying to close the gap between what it's predicting and what reality is. When it's not working, it looks for an answer. When you get to the point where your old strategy doesn't work enough and you have enough pain, you will search for something new. And if at that time we can give you something that actually works. You'll grab it. It's like if you're drowning in a sea of confusion And I throw your life rafting you and I'm not going to go, I don't like the color. You're going to grab a hold and it comes into your unconscious. And the other last thing I'd say about that is It's also about going beyond your conscious mind.

27:48 Right. You're if you ever try to do something and then sabotage yourself it's just consciously you wanted one thing, subconsciously another. I believe all lasting change. Happens in an altered state. When I say an altered state You could call it hypnosis.

28:01 I tell people, I'm a dehypnotist. Most people walk around in hypnosis. You can't hypnotize me and they're they're in a hypnotized state in that moment. And then something catch your attention and you stay focused on it too long and all of a sudden you realize, Holy shit, who's been driving the car? That was a s that was a hypnosis thing. Hypnosis just means you're inside, not outside most of the time. And in a hypnotic state.

28:25 What goes in goes in deeper than just in a consciousness state. That's why I like doing storytelling. And I'm I'm my wife and I are And we had uh A friend that child was taken and trafficked. It was the most brutal thing and so it got us involved and so and we've We've contributed to seventy-two thousand children being saved. I've gone out on some of these

28:47 Undercover with scars on my face and elements it's most brutal thing you can possibly imagine. But I tell you this because When you When you witness certain things in life that are so intense They alter you, they change you, they change what you value, they change what

29:04 What you make important in your life. And so When I say to people you want your life to keep growing, keep putting yourself in new environments. Keep getting around things you're not used to and let something hit you. Like people don't know their passions'cause they keep going and doing the same things. It's like

29:17 Get around where it's better and see what hits you. And something's gonna strike you, something's gonna wake you up, something is gonna make you feel more desire more want. to give something to life as opposed to just live your life. Cause the life you describe to those people is predictable. You get familiarized, even pain. I mean you look at people in Auschwitz, you know, the um

29:38 Man search for meaning is one of my favorite books. Have you read it? Victor Franklin. Yeah, and I I bought the rights I'm making the movie, right? Yes. And we beat Disney that week and people thought that would never happen, right? But That movie changed people, radically, woke them up. Brought resources to the table has created real shift. Uh, man search the meaning, I think, can do that as well. But in those places They get habituated to the pain. You get habituated to pain or pleasure. That's why we've gotta grow.

30:09 And when we grow, we get that life cycle, we feel more alive and then we got something to share and then we feel meaning and then it's like a virtuous cycle and life gets better and better. What you just listened to was a most replayed moment from a previous episode. If you want to listen to that full episode, I've linked it down below. Check the description. Thank you.

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