All episodes of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch · 2026-10-24 · 69 min · 14,748 words

20VC: Why Robotics Will be 100x Bigger than Coding Agents | Inference Will Be a $10TRN Market: What No One Sees | Why Software Investors are F***** Today with Naveen Rao, Unconventional

Listen to the original audio · Transcribed with NVIDIA Parakeet · Timestamps stay in sync with the live audio

We're gonna be out of energy pretty soon in the next few years. This is a blip. It's not some kind of bubble being burst. We don't treat the model a sacrosanct. And we're energy first in our in our mindset. Intelligence to me it will have infinite demand. I do think we will be in a post transformer world. I don't think the transformer is the be all and all. I actually think the hardware is the place to be over the next ten years. I would say if you're a pure software investor, you're kind of fucked. Honestly. The inference market is gonna be a ten trillion dollar market within ten years. I don't look at Oh my God, AI's gonna kill all humans. That's the stupidest worldview I've ever heard. This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stebbings. Now, what started as a very planned discussion, it evolved into one of the most phenomenal discussions that we've had across a wide range of topics from AI to data to robotics. And everything in between, with an incredible guest in the form of Naveen Rao. Naveen is a serial entrepreneur. I mean he sold his last business to Databricks for one point three

Billion dollars mosaic ML. Now he's back with unconventional AI, which has raised hundreds of millions of dollars, their last round close to five billion dollars in valuation. And I think Naveen is one of the most articulate and clear thinkers across such a wide range of very complicated topics, and he's got this unique skill of being able to Really break down very complex ideas into very digestible lessons. He was fantastic, and this show was a joy to do. But before we dive into the show today. Founders and investors sleep on eight sleep. It is the intelligent sleep system trusted by Mr. Mark Zuckerberg, Dr. Andrew Huberman, Charles LeClerc, and the Aston Martin F1 team. The pod is a smart mattress cover that fits on any bed. It cools each side to 55 degrees, heats to 110 degrees, it even tracks your heart. rate, HRV, and sleep stages without a wearable, thank God. The new pod six has a hub fifty percent smaller than the last one and starts at just nineteen hundred and ninety-nine dollars. Visit 8Sleep.com slash two zero vc. That's

E-I-G H T S L E E P dot com slash two zero V C While eight sleep helps you sleep better, MongoDB helps you build better. MongoDB has always been the database developers love. Well, now it's the data platform AI agents need. Agents need accurate context. Fast. MongoDB stores, searches, and reasons over your data in real time. JSON native database, vector search, and Voyage AI embeddings all in one place. One system instead of ten, no data pipelines to maintain, oh, this sounds too good to be true. Build and scale from your first user to billions of vectors. On any cloud, on prem, or your laptop even. That's why 75% of the Fortune 100 run their most critical apps on MongoDB, moving trillions of dollars every single day. And it's why AI native companies like Eleven Labs run 40 million agents on MongoDB. So if you're building an AI, MongoDB for startups helps you move

That is the first couple of minutes. The rest is $1.

We already have this episode, so unlocking it is cheap and permanent: the full transcript (69 minutes, 14,748 words), segment and word-level timestamps, and .txt, .srt, .vtt and word-level JSON downloads, as many times as you like, forever.

No account needed, we create one from your checkout email. With credits it is 1 credit; packs start at 10 episodes for $5, and monthly plans are cheaper still.

get it now

Ready in about two minutes.

Pay once, no subscription. Credits never expire.

See all plans Monthly from $9, about 23 cents an episode

Secure checkout by Stripe. No account needed: we create one from your email. By paying you agree to the terms.