#858: The Random Show, Couch Edition! — Supplements, Hummingbirds, Cock Rings, Optimizing Mitochondria, Breathing and Balance Training, Cool Grip Strength Tools, and More Transcript from https://podmenti.com/t/8c19f8d6dd811ebd Optimal minimal. At this altitude, I can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start shaking. And then I also do those questions. Now it is. My cybernetic organism, living tissue over metal and those galaxy. No Okay, ready? Oh wait, wait. So we're all? Yeah, Raw. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, one. Mm-hmm. I feel like my bowl is a little smaller than yours. It's always been the case. You wanna kick it off? Hello, friends and family. Colleagues that was amazing. Very prominent ejaculation show. Welcome folks to another episode of the Randall Show. Couch audition edition. That's right. Uh ADU back. Of my place uh edition. Why do we have these fancy balls? So this is for people not looking, these are meditation balls. Yeah. Presumably that's Tibetan or Sanskrit or something. And uh you have a little corner, but that's not the bad corner. That's the Zen corner. Yeah, the Zen corner. Yeah, you don't have the kids in the Bad Corner. Did you used that as a kid? In school I got sent to like the bad table all the time. Oh, there's a table. Oh yeah. And then the teacher in kindergarten sent me to the bad table with a bunch of other kids who were really bad. And then forgot that she had decided it was the bad table and just left us at the bad table for like the entire year. Might explain a lot of psychological issues. That I've carried with me. This is not the bad table. And I have Balls over here that are I just like the sound of a good I mean you heard that. Hopefully it came through and didn't Distort the mic, but a a well wrong B It sets the tone for the beginning of the meditation then also At the very end. It's also just perfect for a podcast in Southern California. Yeah, exactly. Nice to be in person. The whole Yeso Cal environment. Uh there's bowls per capita out here and crystal shops are very high. High density. High density, man. Yeah. Another beautiful day. Beautiful. Where should we start off with? We just came back from our retreat. We did, we did. You wanna describe the Format? Yeah, so we've done a couple of these retreats. This is the second one where It's just a small group of people that are interested in meditation. And that wanna go a little bit deeper in the world of Zen. You know, you and I both talked about the way and Henry Shookman a ton, the way being his app. And Henry's just a great leader. Okay, Zen Master. And it was accompanied by Valerie another Zen Master Mountain Cloud. Mountain Cloud Zen Zen. Yeah. So we flew out there. Small group. Hopper Zen retreat is like five thirty cushion in the morning and then you're off at seven PM And it's hardcore like No talking. Shitty food. This was not bad. Like this was we had a good Chef that was there and we were allowed to ask questions in between sits. The sits were purposely kind of time bound to call it Maximum of twenty five minutes. And then a walking meditation, then another twenty five minutes that was like Kind of max. Yeah, let me interject just so we don't get into hyper bougie territory too fast. So the chef was not our chef. He's actually as I remember, this is a former, I think, James Beard award winner. Yeah. to forgo the accolades and the attention. How is that less bougie than what I was gonna say? Well you said we had a a nice chef and people might assume that we're like bringing in a chef. This is a chef who actually He lives there's I know that's the point I'm making. He lives at the Zen Center and has chosen A life of simplicity working with local ingredients and stuff. Yeah. And he is also normally there. It's not like we had our own dedicated chef. That's right. That's what's not on my house. I I eat venison jerky sticks most of the time. And lentil lentils out of a can. Still. And he shugged my freaking ketos about five minutes ago. Tim just goes in my fridge and he's like Okay, what are you up to? I want to see what Kevin's up to. Okay, we got a little semi gluttide in here. We got some patha. He's like, Oh, ketones and he starts chugging my my ketone esters. Well yeah, I unwrapped it and I was like, I probably should ask if I can drink this, but I'm guessing this has been in there for weeks. Dude, I don't that stuff that you drink is like so they make several versions of that. That's like the full on F-16 isn't the latest fighter jet. Whatever the Gen 5 fighter jet is, F-22. It's the most uh it's the highest intensity. This is the Delta G brand. Ketone monoester, which is BHB, which is kind of what you want. bound with something called one three butane diol, which I will say if you see that on the ingredient list of your supplement. Or Exogeneous ketones. Treat it like a shot of tequila. You really want to use it in moderation. There's mounting evidence that it's pretty Unhealthy for your liver. So just Using moderation in terms of ketone supplementation, but hey. Right before a podcast. By the way, it's a great time For me to take like 15 grams. I will not do thirty. Because and I talked to she'll probably come up again. Our mutual friend. Talk Ronda Patrick about this. I don't think I'm talking out of school here. But when you take when I take and this is true for her as well, and I suspect other people, the full thirty, like the entire shot. rather than decreasing anxiety, it actually for me spikes it. And I think that could be related to A very rapid rise and then trough afterwards, but Who knows. The point is Keep it moderate. You're the first person to tell me that it impacts liver function. And I have More often than not had elevated liver enzymes. Mm-hmm. Surprise, surprise on the whole d drinking front typically. But it's something I watch and When did you hear about that?'Cause I'd never heard that to be the case. I um Fortunately. By virtue of doing the podcast and also being incredibly interested in science, interact with a lot of researchers. So I get to have chats with them once I get to know them better about Pre-publication data. Studies that are underway. And they never want to talk about them publicly because you have to check all the boxes and science is Also Very much about not fooling yourself when you Make a certain hypothesis. But the first whispers of this were from And still are from animal models. Where you can basically Dose mice with one three butane diol and give them the equivalent of fatty liver disease. Oh wow. It's not good. And I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but the point is treat it like ethanol. Treat it like not even tequila, moonshine. Like you're drinking moonshine and you wouldn't want to do that every day. Or cough syrup. Cough syrup and moonshine. Yeah. So That is just to say still think there's a time and a place for it. I've been experimenting with other versions like ketong salts. Dominic Dagostino, he's also the co author on some of the papers that are describing this. You tried bath salts for a while too. That was a very odd version of Tim that came out. Just eat eating the flesh off of the sh eating people in the meat in the median in Florida. It's always a Florida man. Yeah. Florida man dot that uh chewing someone's face off after. Bath salts. Stay away from bath salts, kids. So yeah, I came in. Nice and fulloaded today. Yeah. Awesome. Well I am glad that you're feeling better,'cause you also might not have made today, so Yeah, that's a sidebar. I ended up I may have had a glancing blow of eggplant to which I'm deathly allergic and woke up in the middle of the night. Incredibly sick last night. So I'm glad I'm here. Yeah. And I brought my epi pen for for dinner later. Amazing. Learned my lesson. Bring your back up. So the retreat, let's finish that off real quick. So we got together. What did you learn this time around? Cause we've done this twice. You've dabbled in the world of Zen. You've always said, correct me if I'm wrong, but meditation has been a hard thing for you, typically. Where are you now with your practice? Well what I would say is you know the first thing speaking as a very much still a novice on any level. I would say that meditation is kinda like sports or exercise. It's like do you like exercise? Like, well what kind of exercise? Right? Meditation, there's so many different ways. to meditate or explore mindfulness. There's the Vaposana approach. There's transgender meditation. There's Zen, which is very much its own thing, right? And You know more about that than I do. But what I do Find helpful about the retreats? Is You can describe what is going on when you're sitting still with your eyes closed. Trying to Focus on something, in the case of say the breath, or trying to just observe whatever comes up. And the feedback that you get from someone like Henry or Valerie. Where you can do a twenty five minute sit. And then take a short break. Talk about it. And they can say, Well, given that you experienced this this, maybe you had restlessness. Maybe you had in my case. This sort of planning compulsion. Right. So rather than memories or fantasies about Who knows what, not necessarily that. But I default to plans, like things I need to do. Right. And it's like, okay, well if that's coming up. Then Henry might say, Why don't You try in the next set, which we're gonna do in ten minutes or five minutes. A B or C. And then you do it and you provide feedback. And so you're able to really Polish the stone. Moving forward and Similar I suppose to a lot of what we might call transcendental experiences, which sounds fancy, but it's really just Perhaps not fixating on the self or interrogating what this thing is that we call the self, which you can do through meditation. Mm-hmm. You can also do it with or maybe you're forced to do it in some cases with psychedelic experiences or other things, breath work. When I was there at the retreat, you might remember this, I was getting very frustrated. And I was like, Where's all this frustration coming from? Yeah. And while I was there, I was like, I don't know how much I'm getting. out of this right now. Mm-hmm. But when I got back to quote unquote real life in Austin, I had like Three to five days of this just kind of Blissful calm. Attention. Where I was able to get everything done I needed to get done. There was no rushing. There was no looping and any kind of future tripping. And I was like, Well, that's very interesting. And it also holds true for Say. Breath work. Psychedelics. There are many different things that you could look at. And Interestingly, maybe. This is one way to think of it. I mean In a sense. There are a lot of parallels between different methods for entering what people might consider a trance state. And I don't think Meditation is exempt from that, depending on what it is. But if it's a concentration practice. For sure. You're using a mantra or you're using something you're repeating in the cases. Yeah. T M in the same way that you might use rhythmic drumming. Yeah. And you can go some pretty weird places and then you come out of it, you're like, I don't know what to make of that. And sometimes the payoff is what you notice in the next Unfolding. week or two or three or whatever the duration might be. That's right. So that was very invigorating for me and also Henry. at one point used a prompt. In response to I'll give a great this is a real world example of Something that happened. to me, something I experienced in a sit, and then Henry's response. So I use the way all the time, full disclosure, we're both involved with it. I mean it's really because more than anything. More than anything else is just I think it's good for humanity and people to lear from somebody who is really deliberate about layering on progressive skills that you can take Outside of the meditation. But one of the practices is labeling. So if And there are million different ways to do this, but let's just say talk comes up in the mind and you label it radio or talking and then If some kind of video comes up in the mind, right? Images. You're imagining something or planning something or remembering something. Okay, that's video. Yeah. And so on and so forth. Yeah. But for me as someone with very well established O C D I can just end up being like radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio. And it turns into Instead of A helpful thing. A very interruptive. Stressful thing. Right. And at that point in the retreat in the retreat, clear it was three to Days. Yeah. It was very short. Andrew said, Okay, well let's he moved into the next sit and he said, Just be still. Right. Like just be still. That's it. That is the focus. Like just sit still. And did that for two consecutive sit. I just focused on that and it was remarkable how much everything calmed down. I was like, okay. Well, just like exercise, like some people sure can go to the gym and do full sprinting workouts on an inclined treadmill. Not everybody can do that. Right. And other folks are well suited to yoga. Some people are well suited to Different types of Lifting, etc. And everybody should probably spend a little bit of time in each of those compartments if they can. But it's not like everyone is equally suited. For instance, in my case, to like the open monitoring stuff, like we'll just sit there and notice all the things that come up. It's like So I came out of the retreat. Thinking you know what? Something along the lines of Transcendental meditation, not necessarily with that branding, but Using a co on. Using Just be still. as a concentration practice that I repeat. really gives me a lot of payoff. If I just sit still Or Ten to twenty minutes. twice a day. Can I tell you my theory on this? No. So One of my theories because I've been going super deep on bioelectric medicine and different ways of Using Electricity in place of pills, basically. and medications. Which I think is really the next frontier in a million different ways. People should check out Michael Levin at Tufts and some of the crazy stuff he's able to do. But Related to meditation. I did this deep dive with someone named Kevin Tracy, who's very credible scientist. Very widely cited. help discover and explore a lot related to TNF Alpha and all sorts of things. And he is incredibly Knowledgeable. of vagus nerve stimulation. Not The bogus bullshit kind, which is ninety nine point nine percent of what you see on the internet. Yeah. But using say implants the size of an omega three capsule in the neck. Which is where the bigges run. It's really like two transcontinental cables running down either side of the neck. Each one has about a hundred thousand fibers. And if you put an implant in, that's giving continuous Stimulation. On and off, on and off. It's not twenty four seven. It's incredibly effective for things like rheumatoid arthritis. Mm. And actually it was FDA approved. It was on the cover of the New York Times. The day that I interviewed him. And There is the question. How? Why? What's going on? And It just so happens when you stimulate the vagus nerve. You activate something called the inflammatory reflex and you can In effect. Prevent. Damaging cytokine storms? decrease systemic inflammation of all different types. That word inflammation is kind of a umbrella term for a million different things. And I remember chatting with one of my friends who's a professor. he was using the ten percent happier app by Dan Harris. Mm-hmm. And he was meditating twice a day. And then after like one or two weeks, he's like all of his aches, which are debilitating. Like he had a lot of musculoskeletal issues. They just went away. And one way people might try to explain that is like, well you're becoming more present to your feelings. Or maybe it was psychosomatic. Right. But I think it might actually be when you sit still. And you inherently end up breathing rhythmically because you can also stimulate your vagus nerve with say box breathing and other things. That you do that twice a day if you were to use an implant Or Let's just say either ear based or neck based stimulation of the vagus nerve, guess how long it lasts? Roughly twelve hours. So you do it twice a day, you're getting full coverage. Oh interesting. And so if you're getting full coverage, and there's a lot more to it, I won't dig too deep right now. If you're getting twice a day. Vase nerve stimulation from sitting and focusing on breathing, even if you don't realize that you're And training your breathing. I think that might have explanatory power for some of the Benefits people see from meditation. Just a quick thanks to our sponsors and we'll be right back to the show. Sleep is the key to it all. It is the foundation. Many of you heard me talk about how today's sponsor, Aet Sleep, has improved my sleep with its pod cover. The Pod Five introduces ASleep's latest product, the blanket, which uses the same technology as the pod's cover. To extend temperature regulation across the entire body. On average, members report the pod has helped them fall asleep 44% faster. 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I don't wanna dox this guy because I don't think he's public with it yet. But there are two ways currently non invasively to s to stimulate the Vegas nerve. Mm-hmm. Commonly known. One is the neck. where you really like press some type of device. There are a number of them out there. Mostly used for migraines or cluster headaches. And it's pretty unpleasant. Like you stimulate the neck and it activates the superficial muscles in your face and pulls your face down. And I used one of those for probably Four to six weeks. Didn't see Any Systemic benefit. A friend of mine doubled his HR V using one of those devices. Like he had some I'm not gonna call it PTSD, but he had some Overactive, sympathetic drive. Mm-hmm. And The vagus nerve stimulation is associated with the rest and digest parasympathetic. Okay. Which is also why right now I stimulate before bed. Five minutes twice a day. For for the ear. Jesus Christ. No. For the ear, there's something called the Simba Concha, I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. Yeah. People can see most of the research. Right. Yeah. Okay. And you can look this up online. You kinda want the portion of the Simba Concha that is closer to your sideburns, let's say. Okay. And then you need another piece that is grounding. Or completing the circuit and that's gotta be Touching your skin. The contact point is incredibly important. Are there any of these that you like that are consumer available? Because a lot of the stuff like you You can DIY it with components off of Amazon, and maybe I'll make that available to folks. The reason I hesitate to do that is that it's easy to get wrong. And you can Just don't want to be responsible for people trying to put current through their heads. Right. There are a lot of people who DIY trying to do TMS and stuff. Yeah, this is the one reverse polarity and they like you can fry your brand, not with the Vegas Neuro stuff necessarily, but you got to be really careful with stimulation. If you've heard of this one Neuropod, uh-uh. It's basically If you look at who's involved on the the scientist level, like it's crazy the number of Yeah. Let me see. The world's most study wearable vagus nerve stimulation. U C L A did a study there, Penn Okay. That's interesting. It's interesting, but I will say, like just have you noticed anything? I've owned this thing for about a year and a half. I did it for about Two weeks. For thirty minutes a day, I didn't notice anything. Yeah. It's hard for me to see the placement on the earpiece. The placement is very, very, very specific. To this this load right here. Oh yeah, I don't think that's in the right place. But you feel a little ticky ticky tick like like shock almost. Yeah, I d I don't think you're Look, this is my first time seeing it. But I don't think you're going to be necessarily hitting As many fibers as you would want if that's the placement. Yeah But who knows? A lot of fancy names on the website. Maybe I'll take a look at it. Yeah, I mean it's worth it because I want to borrow my I want something I can recommend to people. Yeah, exactly. Right now I can't recommend this because it's not done anything for me, but when I was doing the research for the most like this one They've clearly paid for studies to be done. Who's doing the studies and what are their biases and whatnot. But I'll let you I'll let you borrow mine and see if it does does it does anything for you. It is a nine hundred dollar device which is like Shit, that's a lot of money spent. I'm yeah, I'm using a prototype of one from Scandinavia right now. On Amazon, I look I'm sure people can find some instructions for this. You can DIY something for like twenty to twenty five dollars worth of components on Amazon. It is not it's just a small teams unit cables, the placement is very challenging to get right. Yeah. Um And I did not see much in terms of results from me, even with a lot of professional guidance using that. So um I want to tell you about something related. But but can I stop for a second? Try breathing. Like do box breathing. So that's what they're saying. Or something like that. Do that twice a day. Okay. This is why also In The Great Nerve, which is a book written by Kevin Tracy. It's a great book. There's an extended chapter about Wim Hof, and Wim Hof is a very controversial figure, but well known for breathwork. And you see some of the same effects in terms of controlling immun response. So that it is not excessive. with respect to various types of cytokines and so on. You can do it. Breath work. So Yeah. So we were looking at this have you ever heard of Heart Math? I have heard of Heart Math. Okay, yeah. I went to a little mini retreat where they were doing like a bunch of different modalities in terms of different therapies and things to like Just really let you be the best version of yourself. And one of the things that they did was they gave you a heart math device and they had a whole class on it. And I was like, Yeah, I heard that thing before, I never tried it. And so I hooked it up to my ear and it measures your HR V. But what blew my mind was that The app Once you launch it, it's like Follow this box breathing. And we're gonna watch you get to watch your HR V in real time. Yeah. And dude, it when I followed it, just as as it was telling me what to do, the HRV just like shot up. And then I would try and trick it and I'd be like I'd follow it, but I think of something really stressful and my HRV would go down. So there I'm telling you, this is the coolest device. I have owned it in a while. And you lock into this coherence mode as you do this breathing. And it's it's pretty awesome. It's two hundred and fifty bucks. I not an investor or anything, but Heart Math.com.com and is sixty day money back guarantee. And Well I I want to say that because I I hate recommending stuff affiliate code. Tem forty percent off. Exactly. Tim Tim uh twenty percent off. I hate recommending stuff once people spend their money and but I will say this with the one one thing that I was I've heard good things about Heart Math. I don't know who's involved. I did. Maybe you didn't know this. For a period of time. I maybe it was about three months I did training for this specifically. I think it was before any retail options were available. with a doctor named Leah Lagos who has a book about this and we actually in real time would do a video call. And identify what type of breathing specifically. would have in real time. The biggest impact on H. And there is something to this. There's definitely something to this. I can't speak to heart math, but I've heard of it before. So Don't worry about the Device for stimulation. The point being. Try meditating twice a day for 10 to 20 minutes. Yeah. And if you're like Ugh, meditating. God, I'm allergic to that word because it gets used so much. Try breathing. Use heart math or something else. There's not a whole lot you need to worry about. Andy Wyl has some very good breathing exercise. Yeah, so I have box breathing and four seven eight on my app Oak. That's still in the app store. And it's a hundred percent free. Yeah. There's no way you have to pay for anything on the app. So If you just Google Oak, you can find it and it has Like six different breathing techniques on there. I think here's here's a Hypothesis slash bet. I think that If it hasn't been demonstrated already, I haven't done a full like lit search for this. I think There are breathing patterns if you repeat them. In the morning and at night, twice a day, roughly twelve hours apart. Like ten to twenty minutes that you will see. A lot of benefits for things like chronic pain. Yeah. I really feel very confidently. So that's exciting. Yeah. Sweet. Um what else you got? I've got the crazy things. I mean I just had my birthday a few weeks ago. Which is crazy'cause I'm marching towards fifty really quick. I know. And so getting dragged through the doorway with your fingernails leaving. It's really scary. Well what's crazy is, dude Okay, so when I first when Tim and I first started hanging out like whatever fifteen years ago, seventeen years ago, I Yeah, twenty years. I don't even know how to close to close to twenty years ago. Close twenty years ago. He's like Let me like every time you walk into Tim's house, he like tackles you with some kind of new jujitsu move to take you down. In like the last three years he's been carrying a ball for his lower back where he's like I can't move. And it's like old man Tim has appeared and like that old Tim that would tackle you with the jujitsu move is gone. And the gentle art. Not so gentle. But I know one of the things that I want to really focus on for this next decade is balance. I balance obviously is Is such a key thing. And it's the number one way that people in their as they get older in their sixties, seventies and beyond are actually permanently injured is by falling and breaking a hip and and things like that. So Two things to show off. Like incredible increase in risk all cause mortality if you're older and you break a hip. Yes. Turns out breaking hips are not good. So check this out. This One right here I've had for a while. Don't fall on your ringing ball. So don't have can you imagine smash my face in a ringing ball. So I'm gonna show you how this works. Have you used this before? I have. Yeah. And so are you good at these or no? Oh god, you're like Feel like a parent watching after you. How well can you do the balance boards? I haven't done it in a long time. There's one called the Indo Board, which I have. I fucked around with it. I don't think today is the day. Well so check this out. So Five minutes a day there was some research that was done around people with ADHD. And it dramatically improved their symptoms, which I have a ton of. Yeah, you can't really But why but I w I wanna know if you can do this. You have to pay attention if you're on this thing. Could you do these? I don't know. Never tried it. And then the tippy toes uh so I I 50 squats like this. What I should also point out that industry is a skateboarder. I do. Yeah, which helps. Let's see let's see Tim Ah Fang it. You'll be okay, you'll be okay. I'll hold your hand when you go up. Come on, just give it a shot for a second. I wanna see. I'll give you some depends and you can give you a walker so you can get up there. Uh fuck me. Jesus. Oh fuck. Hold on. There you go. It's got blockers, so you won't slide off the end. Yeah, yeah. On the right foot. Yeah, it's like it's hard, isn't it? Well, I'm like nervous about falling over. There you go. There we go. The squat? This is kinda like Slack boarding where you're like you need a couple of days to get your nervous system. Yeah. Yeah, isn't it amazing how your nervous system adapts to it? Yeah. It's a good idea. People should check out. I think maybe it's not online. There's a guy named Jersey Gregorick. Had on the podcast. He's gotta be seventy something right now, but he was sixty seven. He could stand on one of these at sixty seven. With a fully loaded barbell. What's like Hundred and fifty, two hundred pounds. He weigh probably one thirty. And he could do a perfect form Olympic snatch. Landing with past to heels. And then stand back up and do repetitions. So dude I when I was just in Japan last week. Ooh Alright, there we go. That's enough. When when I was just in Japan last week, I was out there and I was I was at this uh event. Whoops. I was at this uh friend's birthday party that Tony Hawk's also friends with, so I was hanging with Tony And he's like I last time I saw Tony, I was like Dude, how you doing? Because I Tony Hawk, one of the most legendary skateboards of all time. For people who don't know. People definitely know who Tony Hawk is. But yeah. You might know who Tony Hawk is. For the youngster. Last time I saw him, he had a cane. Oh. And I I was like this was probably like eight months ago or whatever, and I was like, Dude, how you doing? And he's like I just got a couple of screws put into my hip. And you know, he had this injury and I was like, Holy shit, man, I'm like My head I'm like, oh the fucking legend, you know? push himself in his fifties to do he's still doing like, you know, whatever seven twenties on the half pipe, and in his mid fifties, like Fucking crazy. And I saw him up in up in Hokkaido and We're going snowboard, he's like, Yeah, I'm going bored today. He has no cane, no nothing. And I'm like Do you have pain? Like do you have pain? Like do you feel pain? Like what what are you doing in your mid fifties like doing vert snowboarding, like You know what I mean? And he's just like, Yeah, he's like my my wife jokes that I should have a shirt that says like always in pain or something like that. And it's just like that is a l some people are built like that though. Yeah. Have you ever seen his shins? I'm sure they're just like he looks like a tie kickboxer. Yeah, exactly. He has been hit so many times by the board, it's insane. You And your birthday when I was that your birthday in n in uh New York probably about uh I don't know, maybe seven, ten years ago. You got a slack line in your backyard. Yeah. And um I couldn't do it at all. Not even one step. Yeah. Because it is a very much a nervous system practice. It's a nervous system practice. So I found this online as like a little home one. Do you have one like this? Cool. I have played around with these. These these are pretty sweet. So I have not used The smaller ones. I had one between trees. Same company, given. And just for people who've never played with this. If you're gonna try it, don't do like an hour. thinking that you're gonna figure out in one day. You actually my belief is you need sleep cycles for your nervous system to try to integrate it. So you're better off doing a few minutes every day. And gradually you'll figure it out. That's cool. Very portable. So obviously a lot easier to set up and take down than a gigantic thing between two trees with ratchets and everything. Yeah, exactly. I just wanted to get one because again on the balance front, they They'll have a little QR code there at the end of these scan and they give you about twenty or thirty different exercises that you can do with it. Like the toe taps where one foot is on and these tap a toe on each side of the bar. And like You're right and there's this weird thing that I noticed as in my kids where They got those little hoverboards for Christmas so they can just kinda zoom around and they're seven and eight. And day one, like eating shit, you know, helmets full gear. And day two My youngest is just like Woo shoo like just flying over the place. Totally figured it out. It took a couple of days of that kind of adaptation and that muscle memory to kinda kick in, which uh I think all these things do. But yeah, this has been awesome. Yeah, and for people who Might want to try. Slacklining. Don't get on a slack line really far off the ground, number one. But a lot of rock climbing gym have slack lines set up. So you can potentially Get someone to show you the basic Ropes, pun intended, of walking on a slack line over there. And it's called Gibbon. Pretty sure this is why it's called given. Because if you see really good slackliners. They do this with their arms as they're walking across. And what does that look like? It looks like a gibbon. This monkey. Yeah. And you can see you can see footage of Gibbons walking across like rope on Small suspension bridges. Pretty fast next. So Try it out. Awesome. And you know, I'll throw something out there. Yeah, it's too. Because it's related to Rock climate. Well a couple of things. Since you brought it up. So For the last two days, you know, we've been hanging out a little bit. And you have not seen. My little Blow up Plotties ball that I usually put behind my low back. I just mentioned it a few minutes ago. I do see it. No, but you haven't seen it. I know. So what's going on? Well It seems like and this is not going to apply to most people, and this is a work in progress, so it's not definitive, but I ended up meeting with a Neurologist and surgeon. In Austin. And even injected baby seal stem cells. No. It's gonna be some shit like that. No, it's it's it it might apply to a very, very small fraction of the people who are actually listening to this. He did imaging. He used to be in a clinic where they ran trials and studies related to something called Bertolotti syndrome. And Bertilati syndrome. is incredibly uncommon. Most Specialists in his profession might see one or two cases in their entire careers, but he's seen hundreds. And he looked at my imaging and he said You may actually have Bertolati syndrome and he pointed out they had very advanced imaging. First time it came up. it corresponds perfectly to where I point to when people ask me when I have pain or where I have pain, excuse me. And it's in effect where you have a transitional segment. So it's like a lumbar vertebra that's behaving like a sapral vertebra, or vice versa. And let's just say it's like L five and the the transverse processes. I think it's transverse processes on both. Try to form. A pseudo joint. So they basically lay on bone and other material to try to create. What is then called a pseudo joint. And if you look at textbook cases at Bertilat, you're like, Yeah, of course that's gonna hurt your back. And As a way of testing the hypothesis, he said, Well let's Before we even consider any interventions, let's try to hone in on whether that is accurate or not as a diagnosis. The way we'll do that is there are some nerves that affect that area specifically. There's no like radiating effect or anything down the leg. Let's put in effectively a nerve block. And then See what happens. Like we'll put it in a nerve block. What is a nerve block? basically stops the area from transmitting pain signals. But like what does it mean though when you put it in a nerve block? You lay down in my case on your face. I hate When anyone is messing with my spine, man. It's like very I've had so many things done to me. And I'm usually a cucumber, but m when needles are like in or around my spine. Yeah. I really get the fierce sweats. I don't like it at all. But in this case, that was required. So you get a In this case it was I think it was lidocaine, small amount of lidocaine to numb the surface. Oh shit. Then they're going through quite a bit of deep musculature. So they go in and then they're putting in uh in in this case, and obviously you need specialists for this who's the baby seal. Um provocate. Yeah, baby seal semen. Um it was prolocaine and something called Kenelog. But none of those specifics are the punchline. The punchline is after he did the injection, he said, Okay. this particular portion of the cocktail is gonna last eighteen hours and then you're gonna get probably two weeks of effect from the Kenelog, something like that. Which is a cortisone shot, basically. He said, I want you to do all of the things that you think will most piss off your back. Like all the things you've been avoiding. Which for me are sitting on hard surfaces. Sitting with a slightly flexed back like if you're sitting on a bar stool and you're kinda like this. Any of those stretching in that position, sitting on the floor with the dogs, certainly things like heavy deadlifts, squats. So I did all of that stuff. For three days straight. Zero pain. Hmm. And I'm like holy shit. After having so many specialists from different disciplines say like Yeah, I know you point to that, but that's not the spot. It's actually because there's referral pain from this, this, or this and just Having so many People dismiss how precisely I could point to where I felt the most pain. Which was consistent. over years. And for the first time he's like, if we look at the imaging right here, it is exactly where you are pointing with your finger. So I'm I'm cautiously optimistic, that's amazing. This is the first time in six years Also just like There are different tools that work for different people. Sometimes it requires multiple tools. A lot of people have benefited from the work of of John Sarno. But that school, for instance, in effect. Says. None of the imaging really maps to symptoms well. It's all in your head. So do cognitive training and reconditioning to solve it because that's the guy that Howard Stern got his back problems fixed through, right? It might be a lot of people benefit from that stuff. Yeah. But It's also infuriating to be told. Like Every type of back pain is in your head. I'm like, really? If I took a ball peen hammer and smashed one of your breath, that would be in your head? Like I guess technically. Fine. But This is the first time with a relatively simple But Precise intervention. I guess it's been about five days it's like I can do everything with no pain. So that's amazing. So what does that mean? Well Could be the cortisol shot. Well that's the one thing that's like Well, that is But you probably had that before, right? Or no? No, I haven't. But here's the thing. So that that's going to have a different Yeah, anti inflammatory it's also gonna basically kind of For lack of a better term, like puff up the pseudo joint in a way that sort of reverses the chronological Age or development of that in some ways from a symptom perspective. This is where I'll offer people something they can potentially look into, obviously with the help of really, really, really good doctors. If that shot continues to deliver benefits and I can do all these things pain free, which is the case right now. Then there's something called radio frequency ablation. RFA, which is used to in this case, temporarily completely incapacitate those nerves. So they go in, they apply radio frequency ablation. And that should last for like a year to a year and a half, hopefully. And The hope in that case is okay, with a year, year and a half. And I already spoke, you know, I've spoken to multiple people and they're like, even if you resume a lot of your activities and stair step into it that previously caused pain, you shouldn't structurally make that worse. That was a concern. And I think that's in enough of a period of time. Where you could effectively reprogram your pain patterning. Because for years now it's like if I sit on a hard surface, my brain is like Code red DEF CON5, like you are about to not be able to sleep for six to seven days. Yeah. And you're gonna have trouble walking and sitting and standing. So super exciting. That's awesome. Yeah. Just a quick thanks to one of our sponsors and we'll be right back to the show. Back in the day, this was 2004, maybe, I had someone approach me in a coffee shop and say, Good day, mate. And introduce himself. Who was that? It turned out to be the founder of AG1. Believe it or not, way back in the day. 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Find this Swedish rock climber. Named Emil Abrahanson, so Abraham Sun S S O N He is a monster, very competent rock climber, does like V thirteen problems and Probably much more. incredible explainer of things and dives into a lot of training. And he along with the help of This scientist named Keith Barr, B A A R, who I've actually had on the podcast. developed or tested this protocol for improving tendon strength. And it is the simplest lowest impact thing you can imagine. It's basically ten minutes twice a day. And He does a bunch on a hangboard, but let's keep it simple. Let's say you're hanging on Could be. A pull up bar, could be a door jam, could be The underside of some stairs, whatever. And he's hanging with like 30 to 85% of his weight. So his feet are still on the floor. Does that for 10 seconds on. Fifty seconds off. Ten seconds on. Fifty seconds all. And you do it ten times. That's ten minutes. And then you do it again. Later in the day. And his before and after Strength and Endurance Test. Or mind blowing. This is already a guy who we could say is a high level climber and to see like the before and after is crazy. So you don't always have to kill yourself to adapt in really, really interesting ways. And That's something I've really, really benefited from. But the low back has been a limiter. Right for like the last few months. Because hanging from a bar if I don't engage the abs could cause some issues with the low back and spasming. So I bought this thing. recommended by a friend of mine, Nick Norris, who's also been on the podcast former Navy SEAL. called the nug. And the nug. is it's about the size of like a gigantic bar of soap. It's a piece of wood. And it has different depths of grips on it. Like twenty five millimeters, twenty millimeters, and you can move it around really easily. And basically like you could keep it in jacket pocket. And as long as you have a carabiner, like one of those things that kinda clicks on You can Do all sorts of exercises while you're traveling. And at home I have basically uh Plate loading pin. That you can load plates on. Yeah, exactly. So that you can basically do like a single Handed deadlift. And so this is essentially doing the hanging board? It's similar. I'm looking for the same kind of loading, but what you can also do is take this thing that you can fit in your pocket. And attach it to like a low cable machine. That's what I was doing in Santa Fe actually. Oh, that's cool. And just like get the weight off the ground. you know, the stack off of the uh resting position. And then I was doing ten seconds on, fifty seconds off, ten seconds on, fifty seconds. And you only have one of these. Yeah. Because I'll do one hand and then I'll do the other. Oh. The website is Frictious Climbing. Uh doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, but like friction, frictitious climbing. They have the nug. They have a bunch of other items that you can use while traveling for this, which are really, really interesting. So That's another one that I've been Traveling with. I'll let you go. And then this is awesome. Yeah. It's just a fun little tool to play with. Do not overdo finger training. You do not want to. Terra pulley or something in your fingers. So less is more, less is more, less is more. This is I guess something like thirty to eighty five percent of body weight. Obviously or maybe it's not obvious, that's with two hands. So if you're doing it with one hand. It's gonna be You know, fifteen to forty percent. That's amazing. This is cool. I already just ordered it by the time we're done talking about it. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's fun to play with. Cool. What you got? Yeah, so I've got a couple of things. One, I was hanging with Craig Maud in Japan. And you've had Craig on the show before. Yeah, Craig Amazing, amazing guy. I don't think there's anybody that understands Japan the way that Craig does, like in in terms of the backcountry and just like the little artisans and all the stuff that he's into. Craig has walked. I'd probably fair to say like thousands of miles of different trails and Pilgrimage paths in Japan. It's very likely he has walked more of Japan on foot than any other person. Yeah. So he was out here visiting he actually stayed In this house for a week when he was out here in LA. And I walked in, he's got all his little toiletries like sitting out, you know? Yeah. Like sitting out he puts it all in Japanese order where it's like got a little nice little cloth and it's got like all the shit like that. I know, I know. I know. So I mean he's lit there for twenty five years, so like that makes sense. But I saw his toothbrush and I was like that is a dope looking toothbrush. And I got you one. Oh wow, look at this. So you can get these on Amazon. It's got a really wide head. He said it's his favorite Japanese toothbrush. It has so so for people to can't see it, it's like the toothbrush bristles are almost in us. In a square, right? I mean It's very uh Square like as opposed to being more el elongated. And so you get three of these for eleven dollars and fifty cents on Amazon. And what does it say in Japanese? Polemium Care Premium yeah, premium care. Premium care. Old toasters here. Hey, buddy. Look at the Mantos. I was just I was just saying hi to him earlier. This is Toaster is now fifteen. You know, I was just Saying to Daria that the last time we did a podcast sitting on a couch was at your place in San Francisco. Yeah. Back when Toaster was a puppy. And he chews through the cable, the X L R cable on the Zoom. That's right. Yeah, he can't hear anything anymore, and sadly his back legs are falling off. I feel like that he's still a good dude. I feel like I feel like you recognize me'cause I've seen him so many times. Oh, for sure. Yeah. What a sweetheart. He's such a good boy. So yes. Premium care. Yes, I got you one of those and like there's a three pack for eleven dollars fifty cents. I think it's great. It's fantastic toothbrush. Yeah, yeah. Th Gardy me back here. Yeah. Okay. Cool, I dig it. Thank you. Um speaking of all things Japanese. Mm-hmm. So I I'm hesitant to give this up. So if you want to get If you want to get in Low in stock, only one left. Let me tell you why. So first of all, check this out. Take up this jacket. Cool. All right. Oh, nice. You feel how heavy that is. Almost like Oh. I know what this is. I know what this is. So this is this is a fireman's jacket in Japan. And this is a heavy Like dope fireman's jacket. It's vintage. This will be hard hard to rip. Like the 1970s. Oh wow. And so I found a store on Etsy. How did you even think to look for this? Because I love this style of jacket. He's fireman. Vintage Japanese jacket. I type in like Japanese jacket on Etsy. And so this importer They import Like The coolest vintage Japanese. Everything from jackets to You know how they used to do that patch mill kind of work where they take stuff they would like patch quilts out of out of old Material. Yeah. Yeah, so like everything from like little tiny shrines to wicker baskets, like do check out the store. Let me just show you the store real quick. Um and the only reason I'm plugging it is in Vintage Japanese indigo dyed kendo jacket. So they got all the little dolls. They've got these different types of uh Indigo died kind of blankets and what's what's the seller? The seller is just an importer from Japan. You don't want to go to the next porter. No, I will. So well here's the deal. It's so inexpensive. Like In the States, if you were to buy this jacket from a a designer called Visum, which is like a well known Japanese designer. This style of jacket would be Gosh, I mean it'd be might be twenty five hundred dollars. Wow for that jacket. More expensive than my car. No it's not. They sell these jackets on there for here's one for ninety two dollars. Like look at this. Vintage. Nineteen sixties jacket, ninety two dollars. He's kinda needs a little help. I don't think you're ready for the slack board, my friend. Yeah. There you go. Okay, I know, I know. Uh I mean that jacket's oh, but I just wanted to give us Out there because I think if you're looking to buy vintage fun things in you can't square. I know, I know. Uh I know, I'm being an idiot. If you if you uh if you're looking for v for just various objects around your house That are vintage from Japan. This place is insanely inexpensive. For all different types of things. Blue Heritage Japan. Yeah, so the the Etsy name is Blue. Heritage Japan. Four point nine stars. Thousands of reviews. But look at some of the stuff. Yeah, that's cool. These these kind of hanging tapestries for stores and stuff. Yeah. Those are fun. So anyway, I just thought it was kind of a fun shop that And you know it's legit'cause it when you get the package it's Actually imp like it's shipped directly from Japan. Yeah. Like oftentimes you'll find some of these places that make like a Japanese style jacket and then you find a little tag says made in China on the the inside of it or something, you know? So anyway, look at this far farmer's washi paper. Basket. Like wouldn't that be cool to have in your house sitting around somewhere? I mean, like that's just awesome. Yeah. I guess these guys are based in Canada, it looks like. Oh no, that's just'cause I'm logged in the Canadian store. Why did they be like the Canadian speech? I don't know. I wasn't I was on uh VPN. I was in Japan and they were firewalling me off of some stuff and so I had to use VPN. Yeah. I mean dead seriously. It wasn't boring, dude. No doth protest too much. Sh should happen? Uh yeah, go ahead. I want to recommend Some podcasts. For people. And these are two that I continue to revisit. One is this is a mini series by ninety nine percent Invisible, one of the OGs. Roman Mars and he's got some co hosts. It is a series on the power broker. So The Power Broker by Robert Carrow won the Pulitzer Prize in nineteen seventy five. It's a biography of Robert Moses. Who basically shaped Modern New York. And this book is considered the quintessential. Book. to read if you want to understand. State and local politics, especially power wielding in New York. Hm and It's a legendary book. It's 1200 pages. I've never made it through. I've never even really put a dent in it. And then What ninety nine percent of Visible does they walk you through the whole book and kind of give you their highlights. They interview Robert Carrow himself. who got to meet Robert Moses multiple times. And They have guest appearances. By people like Conan O'Brien, who's a huge Robert Carrow and Power Burker fan. It's a wonderful series. And uh I think there are twelve parts I had listened to it ages ago, but they only had three episodes out, and then I just petered out because I didn't want to wait months for the next one to come out. Now they have the full twelve. That's one. And then the other one is A podcast called STELK. And if I want to find interesting scientists Doing things that I think I might be able to apply. To my life. Or the lives of loved ones. And certainly there's a lot of stuff that's out on the edges that is not yet ready for Any clinical applications. STEM talk is just incredible. And my latest discovery there is an a really fascinating scientist named Doctor Francisco Gonzalez Lima. Who's at U T Austin? One of the many reasons I'm interested in his research. is that he has a very different view on Neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's. And Thanks. As I do that. People underweight. And researchers underweight. How you might think of Alzheimer's is a vascular disease. including mitochondrial dysfunction. And The more I dig into this, the less compelling I find. Kind of amyloid plaque. Like amyloid beta plaque, amyloid beta plaque. Yeah. For a whole host of reasons. It's pretty widely accepted now that that is a byproduct of something gone wrong and not the cause of it, right? But still I do think a lot of doctors and scientists would view it as a byproduct, nonetheless, a lot of the treatment options. Like denatomab infusions or otherwise are focused on removing plaque. Right. But you can remove a lot of plaque. Assuming it doesn't kill people. Because there are risks with R and stuff. And you may not see any right change in cognition whatsoever. What do you think of the Breston protocol? I don't know my I look, Dale Bredson. I I don't know much about Dale, so you can illuminate me. Let's get to that in a second. Yeah, go ahead. But What I have seen, let's just say, in the case of Some of my relatives. I've got Three relatives with Alzheimer's right now. one who's disintegrating very quickly, one who's in hospice, and another who's sort of in the early but rapidly advancing stages. And I give one of them. Actually the exact same keetone that I had before we sat down. Only ten. grams'cause I didn't want them I didn't want to risk them getting dizzy. Which can be a byproduct and falling. But I gave them ten or fifteen. Grams and within twenty minutes. Longer sentences, faster speech. This is someone who's giving like one word, two word responses. And that lasted for about an hour, hour and a half. So If plaques Even if we're talking about Tow and so on. If those were solely responsible, that shouldn't work. But I don't wanna be dosing my family with ketones constantly for a lot of reasons. It's like okay, well what else can we do? And This uh Doctor Gonzalez Lima. Has looked at. Low dose methylene blue. Mm and also photobi modulation using lasers or LEDs. Like right on the in most cases the right prefrontal cortex. By the way, do you know that they're selling methylene blue on freaking Amazon now? That's scary. I know. They didn't used to because they were scared to do it. Now there are supplement companies They're selling straight up methylene blue on them. Yeah. Although the safety profile like it's been used for a very long time. Yeah, it's got like 120 years of research, but if you overshoot the therapeutic window, like you're gonna fuck yourself up. Yes. So l in this case, it's low dose. Ideally plus photobulation. And you're hitting two aspects of the electron transport chain. that should be synergistic for mitochondrial function and also glucose metabolism. That's really got my attention right now. Dude, look at this on Amazon. This guy drinking a big picture of it. Guys drinking a like a shaker bottle full of methylene blue. With the goldfish. D methylene blue is what they use for fish tanks, right? To color the b water blue. Is it? Yeah, they were using it in fish tanks. Well, if it's good enough for the fish tanks, I guess. Yeah, look at it. Here it is. General disease uh prevention for fish. If it works for fish, those pet stores figured it out. Yeah, exactly. Be very careful, folks. If you overdo. This is true for a lot of things. You basically have A response curve where A hormetic dose, like a very small amount, is good for you, kinda like Iocaine powder in Princess Bride or Helps. With immune function sign. If you take too much has the opposite effect. So you could, I believe, I don't Think I'm getting this wrong. Handicap. your mitochondrial function by taking too much. Dude, look at this. Fifte milligrams of methylene blue with seventy five milligrams of vitamin C. NeuroPro. I'm not recommending this. This is just one on Amazon. It's all over Amazon. God, that's terrifying. W what what would it be considered a microdose in your opinion? I'd have to go back and look at his actual research. People should listen to the STEM Talk episode with Like like an epi penal. Yeah, just take this to go. Take this to go. By the way, the comments I I w so funny you are on this because uh literally two days ago I was in here reading the comments and they're like, I'm peeing blue now. Like you pee blue. You do pee blue. And that's actually a way individually that you can begin to identify your Customized dose. No, at what point you go from blue to clear. You can figure out basically what the hell. Um probably using not Exactly the correct terms, but figure out what the half-life is in your body so that you're dosing at the right interval. They call this broscience, by the way. I am pretty closely echoing Yes, it is broscience. But it's bro science with citations. Meaning like don't trust exactly what I'm saying, but go listen to the episode and read his research. Dude, look at this. Methylene blue gummies. Now of methylene blue. Terrifying. Anyway, uh just because the supplement doesn't make it safe, folks. Amen. Yeah. Hemlock, all natural. Turns out shouldn't have too much of it. Yeah, killed Socrates. Oh yeah, that's right. So It's just like arsenic, all natural. Don't Yeah. Go take a shaker bottle full of arsenic. Yeah. So yeah, be careful out there, kids. That definitely has my attention right now because I think about Say parental risk. My mom's cognition is slipping. But she's ApoE three three. Her ApoE allele profile is three three. I'm three four, my brother's three four. Which means we got the four from my dad. He's sharp as tack. He's incredibly older than my mom. So it's like all right, they both have metabolic dysfunction. Right. So that's kinda equalized, right? Like fast and glucose and all that's terrible. It's like what's going on? Well You do inherit mitochondria from your mom. And Mitochondria very big deal. So looking at different levers that I might experiment with in my mom that could also Potentially be applied preventatively. Yeah. And me and my brother. Yeah, so so the the Dale Bredison protocol is is pretty awesome. He wrote a book about six or seven years ago. Maybe it's closer to ten. Nicotine Animas, am I right? Exactly. That's all it is. But you tried for the first time today. Oh exactly that but yeah. Um The the one thing I like about it's called The End of Alzheimer's is the name of this book. Is that he understood it. Yeah, exactly. It won't sell many copies with that title. But what he c came up with is he said, Okay, listen, the the what we're seeing in the brain is the byproduct of something on hair wire. It's either Blood drain barrier breaking down, allowing bad shit in It could be bacteria, it could be like a whole slew of different things. It could be Like you said, an issue with blood flow. And it could be what did you call it? Uh vascular type uh issue. And he thinks it's like three or four, he thinks it's either Vascular, which sauna, other things like that help with Uh coca via like other ways to make sure that you have vascular health, obviously. The mitochondria thing is another one that he's huge on. And then he also thinks it's it could be toxin related as well. And then talking about w how to get those toxins out of your body. But his protocol is Very common sense. It's like it is essentially a handful of supplements, which are all the ones that you've basically talked about, along with He calls it um it's like a lightweight keto. So just making sure you go into lightweight ketosis like five days a week. And then You know, obviously no sugar, no refined carbohydrates, like eliminating all that shit. Turns out Exercise. Like intense exercise is very important. And he's shown now Over the course of a dek. That he's taken people actually you know Kelly Boys who we were on The um treat with She's an awesome meditation. She teaches something this form of relaxing yoga, but yeah, as an aside. Because Father, I think she'd be okay for me show this we'll double check but Her father had mild cardiomyopairment ten years ago. And which they're of course really worried, they put them on the Dale Bredison protocol and he's scoring better now than he was when he first took the test. Ten years later. Yeah And she's like, Yeah, he still has issues like here and there, but he's like, you know, like it's in his eighties now or something. It's like But that is that's what you want. Makes a no sense, yeah. Like even if we can say, Okay Mile Carnegie the Pyramid, it's progressing. Like my mom is in this situation. She can't tell you what she had for breakfast, but thankfully she doesn't have Alzheimer's. She has some form of dementia. She remembers me, kids' names, stuff like that, the important things. She would have a hard time telling you what name my dog is. Like there's little things that slide through the cracks. She's and sadly really overweight, you know, didn't really want to do that. But The point is if we can see this stuff early enough, where they still have Enough of your wits about you to take action. Yeah. Because compliance is huge, as you know. Like how hard is it to get your family members to go do high intensity like exercise? Yeah, can I pause for something? So that's part of the reason why the Methylene blue and the photobiomodulation is so interesting. Because for instance, there's a device that is actually Worth investigating on some levels called the cognito device. It's a headset. And it was developed by scientists out of MIT. And it's forty hertz. I believe. Both visual and auditory stimulation. And In Resus Monkeys pretty recently in the last year or two. Last year. They showed a lot of plaque clearance enhanced by this, right? But that's still If I'm understanding correctly, people fact check this, but that's still predicated on the theory of disease for Alzheimer's that by removing plaque you get clinical outcomes, right? Mm-hmm The photobiomodulation Well, let me before I get to that. As I understand it. This is an hour a day. of wearing this device on your head. Mm-hmm. My mom's not gonna do that. Right. There's no fucking way. Right. Right. Nor any of my relatives. However, the photo biomodulation. It's like eight to ten minutes. Laser or L E D is a little harder to do that. And do you have to go in to do that, or do you can you get a device that is a little bit more than that? I'm gonna buy a device. And I'm not recommending people do that. You can really damage your eyes with lasers and so on. But right now it's not like you can go to a clinic and be like, hey, I'd like to have this treatment. It just doesn't exist. So let me be the guinea pig. Before anybody does anything. But you get this device. And it's I'm sure it's gonna be very expensive, right? Some of these lasers, like there's like thirty thousand dollars. But Eight minutes, eight to ten minutes. You can see s even after a single session, you can see multiple weeks of effects. Hm crazy. And so it it just sits sits right on top of into the eye or on top of the Well y there are devices that go through the eyes, but this one, what makes it so mystifying in a way for me. is that it's it's actually pointing at the forehead. Hm. As an infrared laser. It's so fascinating. Wow. There are are Peer reviewed published studies on this, uh, which you can find. Anybody who looks up Gonzalez Lima will will find it. So It's exciting. It's super exciting. There's certain things like I know. That my mitochondria are funky. I know that through Different types of endurance testing. Different types of obviously all sorts of stuff done through doctors and tests and blah blah blah blah. There's something funky with the mitochondria. And I'm like, Okay, well, let's try to get ahead of that. Yeah and actually related to that. To invoke, I said she would come back. Rhonda Patrick also was texting with her. At one point because I was listening to STEM talk that podcast I mentioned, I came across a scientist discussing something called Urolithin A. Of course, it might appear. Yeah, might appear. And two years ago Maybe it's two years ago. Like she was pretty bearish on it. But there's a lot of new research, or I shouldn't say a lot. There's new research has come out. And also met with a couple of biotech people in Boston who are very respected. I'm not gonna dox them because I don't want to, but they basically did this like comprehensive analysis and landed on three or four things and one of them was Ulithinae. Right. I take three hundred milligrams a day. Three hundred? Because that's what all the studies are are done on or no sorry, five so five hundred to a thousand. Take five hundred milligrams a day. Yeah. Clear then it'd be taken. I've only been doing it. Bear with me, people. I love it. If you buy the bag, you can get this on Amazon. I'm not recommending you do that. Jury's still out, but I'm like, hey, I want to hit mitochondria from as many reasonably plausible mechanisms or angles is possible. You can get Mino Pure. It's expensive AF. Yes, it's very expensive. I was gonna tell people the the one that people talk about the most in this world that has done a lot of clinical studies around it. Your thermol A is um this company called Timeline. Yeah, they trademark the name of it, which is Might O Pure. The problem is it's Freaking expensive. Very, very expensive. I don't know. Is there another company That's out there. That has high quality I'm not gonna put shit into my body, right? So But I would like to know i is there any company when you say expensive, it's like sixty count is a hundred and twenty five dollars, right? And you're taking two a day. It's expensive, yeah. And most of the studies actually have people taking a thousand a day. So if you're taking a thousand a day. The prices are You know, the prices are gonna add up. But again, but again, I would trust pure encapsulations if they Offered some of it. I haven't seen anybody you know, like there's no other brands that I've seen that you know the household names like the Thorns, the Pure's a single Skew Well not a single skew, but a single compound company. Like they have a lot vested in IP protection and so on. But it it can be synthesized. Like they don't own That the the thermal A, obviously that's that's something that anyone can produce. Well U lithin A is also what's called a postbiotic If you were eating tons of pomegranates and walnuts and so on, there's certain things that in your gut by microbes will be converted into in part Uralithinae. The problem is that there's a high degree of variability. So if Kevin eats two handfuls of walnuts and I eat two handfuls of walnuts, we're not gonna get the same amount of urolithinate out. Fortunately, U lithin A is very orally bioavailable, which is why the supplementation Right. What's interesting is actually Pure Encapsulations does make one And when you go and look at the label, they actually buy Might Opure for theirs. Oh there you go. So they use Mightope. is almost like a It's like an industrial grid supplier, in so much as Create pure. Like if you're buying creatine. Right. Like I use Mementous Creative and they're sponsored the podcast, but I like their stuff and everything is like NSF certified and third party analyzed. Creopure is this Supplier. Just like maybe might appear is. Right. It's providing Something that is very pure and properly acid and so on and so forth. Okay, so pre encapsulation is not cheap either. That was eighty bucks. Eighty bucks, but that'll get you hold on, let's just dump do the math here. So eighty dollars is pills. And again, it is two hundred fifty megs per two pills. So that's half the dose. Yeah, so if you wanted So per two pills, so if you wanted a thousand a day. That's eight per day. Oh, a thousand day. Yeah. Yeah, it's eight a day. Sixty casts. I don't want all this other stuff. The transveritrol. Whatever. So yeah, it's uh it's expensive. That's uh that eighty bucks is gonna last you like twelve days, something like that. In any case, guys, jury's out. But it's but it's interesting enough that I added it into the rotation and I routinely take things out of the rotation also. Yeah. This one I've been taking for probably Six to eight weeks. What's the number one thing that you've kept in rotation for the longest time? I have to Vitamin D, obviously.'Cause my levels are chronically low if without it. And I think it at this point it's a no brainer to get your levels where they should be. And then I would say Cocovilla is another one that I have had in for a long time. Cocovia's interest, yeah. Just'cause it looks really interesting in terms of vascular health. Uh and then I Think That's Well, obviously a high quality omega three. Outside of that, I don't know what else I've had. What's been in your rotation forever. I mean a lot of them are dictated by Genetic analysis and blood biomarkers and so on. Right. So Outside of prescription stuff, because I am taking things to not die of cardiovascular disease. Everybody in my family gets smoked by some kind of cardiovascular disease and I'm like, eh, I'm no spring chicken. Do you take a ropatha too? Yeah. Taking a bath, uh. Where do you inject it? In the thigh. I hate it. It's so painful. Oh, really? I find it so painful. Oh my gosh. Dude, I can tell you a secret. What's the secret? How long do you let the alcohol Dry for. Don't think it's the alcohol. Dude, I'm telling you I've done hot Thousands of injections in myself. You gotta let it because if if you just like swipe, swipe, swipe, and then go pop. It hurts so'cause it's pushing the alcohol down into the gun. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough because I'm impatient. It's possible because are you letting it come to room temperature too? Yeah, I did let it come to room temperature. Yeah, there's the prescription stuff. It's not gonna apply to too broad a number of people, and I don't want anyone aping it and getting themselves into trouble. But there's there are like a few prescription meds for lipid profile. It's specifically in my case cholesterol absorption, hyperabsorption. Uh, but I would say supplement wise, omega three, I honestly try to get that from fish when I can. So I eat I eat a lot of canned sardines and mackerel and stuff. Which ties into the keto and fast mimicking diet stuff. Uh Vitamin D yes, although I'm pretty skeptical of like the entire planet having vitamin D deficiency, frankly. I do take it though. Then there's some B vitamin Complex to a shitty methylator. So that's a good idea. Yeah, say. And Creatine. Although I end up looking kinda like a puffy fat baby if I eat too much of that stuff. Wait are you doing five grams? Uh it depends on the day. Right. So like I took five grams today. If I'm training, I'm gonna use at least ten. Been doing weight training. And then if I'm I have a crazy travel schedule ahead of me where I'm gonna be in like London for one day and Sweden for one day. I'll be taking probably twenty to thirty grams a day'cause my sleep's gonna be so screwed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to compensate for the sleep deprivation. Holy shit. Um good luck. Yeah, make it to the toilet. Yeah. Don't inject your stomach out. Don't combine Actually, I'm fine with creatine. If I get- You told me at one point it was messing you up, though. Well There was the story. of me What do I have? I had I was in San Francisco. This is probably TMI, but whatever, we're all friends here, right? So I was in San Francisco had my Volkswagen golf that got broken into like three times. For change. I was so annoyed. San Francisco for the win. And uh In any case, I had to run to an international flight and I was stressed out'cause I was running behind. And I was like, Well, just before I go I'm gonna have double espresso. Ten grams of creatine. And then I had MCT oil. And I'm driving on my way to the airport like in a massive rush. I don't have time for anything. Yeah. And I lean to do a little squeaker and just Oh no disaster. No, in my own car. I park in long term parking. You grab a new pair out of your thing, just wipe and go? I Oh God. All right. Can't believe I'm talking about this to millions of people, but Basically took the underwear and like some rags that I had. Like did what I had to do for like emergency field triage, tossed it under my car. Put on my pants. Put on my put on my pants command. No, I literally was like about to miss my flight. Put my pants on commando style. And then ran on and got on the flight. Wow. And I was just like, I'm sorry, everybody. I know this can't Wonderful clone for anyone near We might need to edit some of that. So yeah, don't do those three at once. If you're getting creep your creatine, I don't find it to mess up my stomach at all. Totally fine. If you combine it with caffeine and M C T oil MCT oil is the best are off. All bets are off. That stuff just goes straight through you. I don't know a single person that can do high dose MTT and is be like, oh my son's fine. Like just pre order the subscription of depends. Yeah from Amazon. Uh let me mention one other thing. So related to all the mental health stuff, it sounds like we're doing like tons of stuff, millions of things. It's actually not that complicated for me, right? There are there are a few supplements that I'm taking consistently. Create and the Urlithina, etcetera. There are a few things I'm considering, like methylene blue. If Photobiomodulation, right, with the lasers or LEDs is something that you can experiment with once a week. Or once every few weeks and track changes over time. Let's do that and before And after cognitive testing. Intermittent ketosis. Yeah. I find easiest to do through intermittent fasting, frankly. Which I'll be doing when I travel also. Mm-hmm. I find it's helpful with jet lag. And then there's the exercise, right? So what kind of exercise? Uh did a podcast with Doctor Tommy Wood recently. Fascinating guy. People should listen to that episode. But four by four Norwegian. High intensity training, which is like You're basically doing I guess it would be considered zone four. you're really maxing out your heart rate. And you're doing four minutes on. Three minutes off, four minutes on, three minutes off, four minutes on. You're repeating that four times. And it is very much pu conducing. It's a lot of lactic acid. Yeah. The problem has always been, or one of the problems has always been that if I'm traveling, Stationary bikes and hotels are just terrible. Like they will destroy my knees. They're just too inconsistent in terms of settings and stuff. So I was Texting with Tommy. I don't think he'd mind me saying. I'll have to double check with him. But I asked him I said if In the conversation we had, I was like, well, what are the drivers here? Is it VO two max? So people talk about VO2 Max, VO2 max, VO2 Max. And he said well Lactate actually seems to be a big driver, like lactic acid. Driver of what? driver of the cognitive changes, like the neuroanatomical And vascular changes. And it's like, Okay, well hold on a second. I was like, if that's the case There are certain ways of weight training. Like if you do twenty rep squats. It's slow cadence. Or any number of different things. Like you are going to be Brimming with lactic acid. Could that possibly achieve the same effect? You don't think it's cloth, though? Clothho's another part of it. Because clothho has been shown like hit is what creates clothho in the humans. Well cloth Clothher's another piece. I don't think it's the only piece. I think that I mean look. I w can't wait for us to have proper injectable cloth though, or a let lever to pull. But in the meantime I guess the right now, today. What I'm saying is like high Intensity interval training when you're traveling is not always the easiest thing to do. Right, right. But like for instance, when I go back to my hotel tonight, can I do like a couple of sets of very high repetition leg presses? And just Basically I have lactic acid pouring out my eyeballs. Yeah. I can do that. And I can do it in like five minutes. And There are o many open questions about it. But That's the approach I'm taking. And what's really cool about the Norwegian four by four that Tommy describes, and I think I'm remembering this correctly, is that if you do it, Think it's three times a week. For six months? You can observe the effects, the beneficial effects for like Five years afterwards. Wow. Holy shit. Isn't that fucking crazy? That's amazing. The durability of the effects are just nuts. Okay, I'm this is what I gotta I'll start by like one by one or something to get four by doing four by four if you're doing it properly. I use a Morpheus Chest strap. Yeah. Uh But you're assuming a a certain level Of like Baseline cardiovascular fitness to do four by four. N not really, because I mean look, you don't like blow your Self apart, but it's heart rate based, right? Right. So if you get winded and your heart gets gone walking up a flight of stairs, like you're not gonna need very much to get into the proper zone. I will say for me, and this comes back to the mitochondrial discussion. And I've had doctors who are like, that's nonsense. It's all mediated by the lungs, or it's actually not mediated by the lungs. It's all like heart stroke volume. I'm like, my legs. crap out first. Yeah. Before my heart rate gets to where it needs to be, my legs are the weak length. The fatigue in my legs. I've got boots for you tonight. Can I put the boots on while you have dinner? Are these the uh the ones that go all the way up the leg? Normal attack. Yeah, normally. Oh, they're so good. For people don't know real quick, the quickest line. Great for recovery. It's like if you want to feel like a Kobe Cow. Yeah, exactly. Throwing some Normatek boots. Have a cold beer while you're doing we could do both those things. I mean that's it for my doom and gloom. I don't want to talk about that. Yeah. No, let's save the doom and gloom for next time. I think you're getting contagion from one of our other friends. The uh I left out something that's kind of important. We have a buddy that just like we text with and we love you if you're listening. Yeah. But he's like, the world is ending. It's a lot of it's it's I can only I lean dystopian anyway. It's like I don't need anyone. feeding that hyper vigilant like I need to become John Connor. Like I don't Yeah. Uh plus it's like can I do anything? What what am I gonna do? What's Timmy gonna do? Yeah, exactly. Genie's out of the bottle, folks. So we'll save the doom and gloom for next time, but In terms of an actionable thing, like something I just did before coming here. Yeah. Let's say you want to Experiment with this lactate as lever for Cognitive longevity. Yeah, right. That's interesting. Okay. Uh And let's say furthermore, to your point, right? Everybody's getting older. And believe me, maybe you're like twenty year old dude and feeling immortal. Does like Fucked up joints and broken bones will add up and they will come back to haunt you like the ghost of Christmas past. So if you're trying to minimize Injury risk. Right, and lifting there there are a couple of different ways you can do it. One that I've been a proponent of for a long time is slow down. Five seconds up, five seconds down, ten seconds up, ten seconds down. Time under tension is is huge, right? So it's like look, if you're not a competitive powerlifter. Consider moving slowly. What that requires you to do is lower the weight. You're also not gonna be using momentum. Yeah. The second thing you testosterone. Well not for lactate, but the second yeah, I mean sure. When in doubt. When in doubt two hundred milligrams once a week. Yeah, that's a joke, people. Uh first of all if you have it you anyway, don't do that. You can do. Which I've been experimenting with, which Tommy Wood uses all the time, especially when traveling, is blood flow restriction cuff. Yes. And so I used to have some of those before my fire happened. Yeah, so I would blood flow. I got the automatic ones that would automatically keep the pressure too. Yeah, yeah. I mean you're not gonna be you don't ha use like a hand pump. I've got the I'm using the katsu Yeah, but digital. A T S U C four. I'm using the C four because I'm like, I don't want another app. Oh, I got the look, if people want apps, they can. I'm kind of along the Bill Burr lines of like I need to install fucking app to use my toaster now, like please shoot me. My Hummingboard Veter. Oh yeah, we'll talk about that. Let me finish the blood flow section. We're all over the place. Alright, so The blood flow restriction, all it is it's a cuff. It inflates. And it causes a Partial occlusion, right? It's cutting off circulation to your arms or your legs. And there's a lot of really good science on this. You can check it out. But what you can do when traveling, and I'm trying this right now, Tommy Wood, by the way, is in a phenomenal athlete, endurance and strong man, in addition to being an incredible researcher. I don't know where they breed these people, like Dominic Dagostino same thing, like five hundred pound deadlift for ten reps after a seven day fast. Like who are these people? Anyway. Time is the biggest. When he's travelling. And he doesn't lose muscle when he's doing this. He'll use blood flow restriction. And he'll bring bands. He'll just tell them a bunch of stands. And I don't think much. I like I like to think of myself as reasonably strong. I'm not a World class powerlifter play? I think like generally pretty strong. I put on those cuffs today and I was like, I think I'll just bump it from light up to medium. Like twenty pounds? Uh well it's it has a different metric. It has a different Band strength. Yeah, in terms of I the there's extra large or extra strong or I can't remember. Yeah, I mean it's if you use the Katsu band. So there are many other brands. Tom uses a different brand. You can find it on the podcast and put it in the show notes. But suffice to say, it's like you're using very, very lightweights. And it's like I can probably do hammer curls with like forty pound dumbbells, let's just say. For like With those on. No. No, that's what I was gonna say. Right, with reasonable cadence, not swinging around. I can probably do hammer curls. Like that. With forty pounds without too much trouble. With the blood flow restriction bands on. Like like literally twenty pounds is all you need. Ten pounds. Yeah and uh I was doing like thirty reps And then take fifteen second rest, then twenty reps, fifteen second rest. Like ten fifty reps? So you have the C fours, these these bebbles? I've got the C fours, yeah. And uh and the the look, Katsu's expensive. These are what uh one thousand two hundred fifty nine dollars. I guess that is expensive. There are other options that are not that expensive. But then the one that really was humbling is I was like, okay, I'll just do push ups for like triceps. Right. Just to because I only brought the arm bands. I didn't bring the leg bands and everything. This time around? I can just do like walking lunges, trust me. You can smoke yourself do doing those. But was doing pushups and I was like, well let me start moderate. I'll just start on like a bench. That's about 18 inches off the ground. I'll do some pushups. And I did like twenty five and I'm like, wow, that's a lot harder. than I would expect, right?'Cause like on the ground I could probably do I don't know. Forty? Like good form, fifty. Push ups. And I did I did twenty five was like wow, that's uncomfortable. And then I went to do the next set. Got like five. And I was like Oh, I can't do it. And so I increased My Basically elevated myself to make it easier, right? And I'm doing it on like the the seat of a hamstring curl machine. Did like twelve. couldn't do anymore. And then I got I got to the point where I was literally doing push ups. It's so humbling. On like the railing of stairs. I was like I'm basically standing up straight. And I did thirty reps and I was like This Okay, really real quick. Keeps your ego in check. Twenty second version, why is it working? Why is restricting blood flow working? Why is it building more muscle? It's Doing a few different things. It's also increasing like capillary density and vasculature. It's having a whole host of effects. I to be honest, but doesn't it increase uh HDH as well, loc localized? It might. It makes you sweat your balls off too. Um then I have not to get questioned. Not to get too technical, but Could it work? Could that work? Kevin's asking me if you could use flow restriction. So listen, it sounds like a terrible idea. No listen, they have The rings that you can put around your schwunks. But listen here. I know I just literally Google that there is smooth muscle tissue in there. Yeah. If you're telling me that you're putting bands on your arms. Doing lists. How are you gonna do lifts with your schwanz? You g have to have an a s erection. And then you do like some shallow and monk. Like if you have the band. I'm just saying this is theory. Oh I guess you could like do manual resistance. You could push it down and then bring it back up. Five seconds down five seconds. We obviously everyone knows this is a joke, but it might not be you know I mean not be real Do not yeah, do not wrap duct. They have rings that they sell at stores. Yeah, yeah, okay. I think you can you can try that and then report back in the next review. Have you ever used one of the rings? I don't think so. You have to. No, I mean I would. Why not? Yeah, I mean why not? As long as you're not gonna like Completely. It's not gonna just like fall off. Apparently it's so it locks the blood in. Well obviously. Well obviously for people that don't know. Pre-viagram. We're talking about cockerings. We're s speaking in fucking riddles here. That's what they're calling. There's the sound of one. Quickly. Well is the end of the episode, so. Humbling birds. Humbling. Okay, so t before we started the show, Tim's like, You gotta mention the hummingbirds. Well, I looked at your your draft and I was like, You gotta talk about your hummingbird thing. You sent me a bunch of these videos. Dude, they're so cool. Okay, so essentially for Christmas, I got my my kids A hummingbird feeder With a digital camera built in. And the cool thing about it is it charges from the sunlight. And then also So the camera just always stays on. And then also it detects what In this case it's the humming b but they have for normal birds as well. But it'll tell you the variety of hummingbird that land in it and then use the AI. And then you can name them. And so we have one named Tony's back. Exactly. We have one named Sunset, our girl's name is Sunset, because it has this beautiful red neck. And and we're like Uh it'll I'll get a text notification. Sunset is drinking. That's the one. Bird buddy Bird Buddy Smart Solar Pro Hummingbird feeder. And uh it's fun, people. Cause these things are so beautiful and it's the videos are amazing. They're the videos are amazing and then they play with each other and you watch them h hovering and you get full audio. So you you see the little tiny tongues like sticking out. It's it's just amazing. It's really cool. We're quite cool. Then I got the one That is for Just standard birds, which has bird feed because it comes down. Yeah. And Might fuck. Squirrels! Or taking it over. Oh, they're just they are ruler. Like there's nothing you could do to keep them out of it. They will spring onto it. And then you see they're like Sadly they look out'cause they don't want to get attacked. Yeah and so you just all I have is squirrel ass. On my freaking camera. I'm like, God damn it. Like I how do I get rid of the squirrel? Have you heard of Mark Rober? Does this name anything? Created like the ultimate squirrel ninja warrior course in his backyard. Let me Yeah, there we go. All right, Mark Rober. Squirrels. I think he had the same problem. Here we go. Backyard Squirrel Maze one point oh Ninja Warrior. We'll have to check this out. Oh, no ads, no free ads. I gotta pay for my pro Yeah, you're not paying the five dollars. You're buying seven thousand dollar Japanese vintage jacket so you won't pay five dollars to get rid of these goddamn ads. So here, all that's nice. Yeah, look at this setup. Right. So This is like Mr B's for squirrels. It's oh yeah, look, these guys just get God. It's totally Mr. B's for squirrels, like you said'em do all these obstacle courses. They stick their head through and then they get a photo taken? Alright, we'll link to that. People you have to watch this video. 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