#785: The Random Show — 2025 Predictions (AI, Aliens, BTC, and More), New Year’s Resolutions and Strategies, Smart Fitness, The Spinal Engine, New Apps, and Much More

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4:37 I'm a cybernetic organism, living tissue over metal endoscal. So Kev Kev. Nice to see ya. Tim Tim, happy holidays, brother.

4:53 Happy holidays. Another random show. Ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls brought to you by Kev Kevin Tim Tim Oh that time of the year. It is.

5:03 And can I say where you are?'Cause you're not in a holiday. Place. You're in why. Yeah, right. I'm not in a In a place with great seasonal variety. Yeah. I am in a place with wonderful sun. And warmth, which is good?

5:17 It's amazing. Of course it's amazing. You seem very chill right now. I am chill right now. I'm feeling very good. And There are a bunch of reasons for that that I could talk about. We'll we'll get to that. But there are some contributing

5:29 elements that you're actually very familiar with. So we'll come back to that. But I've had more comments in the last week or two from close friends of mine, people who know me were like, You seem really chill. Yeah, very grounded right now. And I'm like, Yeah. I feel very chill and very grounded right now.

5:46 And there's still a lot going on. It's not for absence of things going on. It's actually somewhat amazing that given how many projects are in process right now. I'm getting those comments, which makes me feel like I must be doing something right. Or I'm just lucky because who knows, I'm sleeping well in Hawaii.

6:06 Could be that. Set the A C to like. negative five hundred degrees, which I had to override every system in the hotel to do. Yeah, they have those things on lockdown. And then if you open the door, it shuts the AC off. It's like the whole thing. Yeah.

6:19 Seventy degrees would be. Dangerously cold. So it's sometimes hard to get the A C low. But Let's hop into it, man. We have a lot to talk about. Where should we begin? Oh man, let's start off with when I think about these year end specials, we've done a few of these and we typically do a little bit of like

6:35 What are you doing in the new year? You know, like what are you gonna change this year? And uh it's the same list every year for me. Oh. Drop this exercise more. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But we'll talk about that. But you know, there's a lot of stuff. I thought some predictions would be fun'cause I have some super for next year. Yeah.

6:52 You're the right guy for that. I might have some predictions, but you have a better track record than I do. I don't know, you've got a few rights. I mean I occasionally get one, right? It's not that my track record is bad. I think you have Such a thirty thousand foot view on so many different sectors. And also just as a

7:08 general partner true and as a more active Investor. than yours truly, you get to see a lot that is coming down the pike. Right. You really get to observe. Patterns.

7:23 On a weekly basis that Most Humans do not. Including me.

7:29 But I do see things occasionally. So we'll we'll see w if I can riff off of some of your predictions. So where would you like to start? Let's start off with something that I just thought was A fun one to just Really get your take on this because I think we're screwing up society. So every year Apple does these it's like, hey, you're the 15 apps that we love. This is the best gaming app, this is the best productivity app, all this stuff, right? And

7:52 And I tend to go in there and poke around and I'm always checking out, you know, what the new hot thing is, especially on the gaming side or stuff where I really just don't pay attention. I'm like, just tell me the best thing, I'll go check it out, right? Yep. And I noticed one thing that I keep seeing this over and over and it's driving me nuts. Because It dovetails into some of the videos that we send each other on a side thread. But like, okay, so we've sent a couple of these videos back. You mean the mutually assured destruction thread? We can say Saka. These are more civilized. Okay, got it. Yeah. So you're like you mean Saka will be like syntax.

8:23 This is one of those threads, I don't know this one's that bad, but we've been on some some threads where there's a lot of picks going around. Nothing horrible, but definitely I'll move on from there. So there's basically These new AI videos. of like MMA fighters.

8:39 And They'll get like knocked out and when they fall to the ground, they like get in go-karts and shit and start driving around. Have you seen this where they like blend AI? Yeah, I've seen that. And it's like it's messing with my head. Like I look at that stuff and I'm like, this is like really bending reality. I don't know if it's because like, There's a psychedelics kind of component there where you're like, why am I seeing

9:00 Something that I would typically see in a different realm, like in this realm, like weird stuff's happening in the brain. But One of the things I noticed in the in the app store is they said the best app of the year was A Adobe app, which you know, they make great stuff, and they had Adobe Lightroom on there as winning the Apple App store twenty twenty four winter Mac app of the year. And why they were so stoked on Lightroom. When you think about Lightroom, you're like, Oh, this is like software that's been around for like, you know

9:26 Couple of decades. Like why is this Anything new. And they had a video there that showed these kids running around in their backyard. And you've seen this. thing where like you can like

9:37 erase shit, you know? Like you can like drag your finger across like Google does all these ads where they're like Hey, is there someone weird standing in your photo? Like I raise them. Dude, this video. We've gone too far. So they're like these kids play in the back yard.

9:50 There was like hedges and then they erased their like yard door to get out of their backyard. And like it made more hedges. And I was just like Can you imagine when these kids are like thirty five or forty and then like looking back in their photos and they're like

10:04 Uh d do we have like a backyard or and they took the dog out and shit i'm like why are you taking the dog out Like the dogs like part of the family. Do you know what I mean? Like what is going on? They're erasing all of our real memories and replacing them with Almost imperceivable at this point, digital alternatives. Yeah. And it's really worrisome to me. I don't know. Do you do any of this shit to you erasing anybody out of your photos?

10:31 I don't erase people out of my photos. I also feel like a lot of that editing is for sharing outside of your immediate circle. By social media stuff. Social media Or

10:45 effectively applying digital plastic surgery to your life so you can share highlights that look better than they actually do in real life and I am very

10:59 Cautious. to play with that because I feel like it's Similarity. Getting your first little dabble with eye tuc or facelift. Yeah. And then there's this creeping tendency to add more and more and more and more. And similarly I don't want to

11:17 Become delusionally dissatisfied with my life because there are little things that in my mind's eye aren't perfect for broadcast, like a door in the hedges, right? Rain. 'Cause then what happens when you're doing that constantly and then you sit in your backyard and you're looking at that door, does it drive you insane? Right. When it really shouldn't.

11:37 And then also but Think of the downstream effects too, where your friends are like, Okay, you just take something That is a mild visual nuisance out of the equation. And it's like oh They had that perfect beat shot. They are so lucky. If only I could have that thing and then you go and you're like, Oh, it was crowded, like

11:55 We didn't have the same thing they did, but in reality they just like magic eraser and all their friends or all the all the people behind them out of it. I'm just like It's creating a fake Everything. I don't know. I just something about it.

12:07 I love AI. I think there's a lot of fun. There's so much I use it for every single day. But this is one of those things where I'm just like I don't want my kids. to grow up thinking they need perfection. And that's what this is doing. It's creating a better, perfect scene, you know?

12:21 Oh yeah. I mean, and people are already using that to of course. I mean, it's like zoom filters on steroids, right? Right. Totally. And I think. I'll just throw this in there. Not sure exactly what form this is going to take, but I do think there will be

12:38 A pendulum swing away from certain digital environments when people realize just How Contorted. Constant exposure will make your perception your satisfaction. your dopamine reward system, I really feel like the impact is going to be felt in a way that people could perhaps rationalize away or brush aside.

13:02 in years past. We're like, Well, I know that Twitter's accessible on X, Y, and Z levels, but I get A, B, and C. But once people are put into environments where What's up is down, what's left is right.

13:17 What's fake is real and what's real is fake. Yeah. the psychological toll, the emotional toll, I think will become much harder to dismiss And people are gonna look for things offline. I think there are gonna be a lot of opportunities for that. You see that in I think you see

13:34 early indications of that with, for instance, like running clubs and various in real life activities that have become very popular. in place of or as supplements to online dating. And dating apps. As an example. Like those things are exploding in New York City and a lot of major cities. You see that in potentially

13:54 Certainly this is a trend, at least in a few Countries outside of the US, I'd have to look at the data. I think it's mildly true we see some improving numbers in print book sales. Mm. That could be attributed to a number of other factors outside of people moving from digital formats to print.

14:12 But At least as a thought exercise. I think we can explore different ways in which people are going to Seek out.

14:21 something tangible they can hold and know is real. Look at in person and know is real. So that's certainly extrapolating from just what I see in in a sort of small circle of people who are hyper exposed. To a lot of this. I feel like I

14:37 People like you who are Perhaps. Way It's called like prematurely saturated with exposure to these things are canaries in the coal mines. Yeah. You're like oof. Holy shit.

14:49 We need an exit. We need a way to step off the stage so we're not looking at this manufactured reality. It's funny you say that. I was talking to uh another friend of mine that's deep in this stuff. You know Chris Hutchins. We I was talking to him about raising daughters and the kids are getting older and he's like, dude, he's like, You know what's funny? He's like When we got bullied as kids. somebody would be like, you know, I hooked up with your mom or whatever, right? And it would just be like they're like the school yard slams or whatever, right? Yeah. And like now in like three years, like I hooked up with your mom, look at this video and it'd be like the mom hooking up with a kid because AI and shit. You'd be like, damn like you're hooking up with my mom. You know, but it won't be real, but it'll be like the flams.

15:28 Yeah, real enough. Like it's g the bowling's gonna get hardcore. Yeah. Yeah, of course it will. Or just yes. The person you want to bully doing things they didn't do.

15:40 Right, exactly. It's gonna get bad. Yeah. And there there are plenty of upsides. I mean look, I've used Chat GPT and Claude. Like

15:47 Ten to fifteen times today with my team. I'm doing a company off site here in Maui. That's why I'm in Maui. And there are reasons for the location we can get into, but It's very useful. But the dose makes the poison, the application also makes the poison. And

16:05 It pays to just be cognizant of how you are using these things. Yeah. So that's one. Alright, what else you got? Are there any personal New Year's resolutions.

16:15 that come to mind or specific ones where you're like, Okay. Some of these might rhyme with things in the past, but here's how I'm gonna approach them differently. Yeah. Oh man. Okay. So The exasperated exhale is always a good place to start. Well, I mean, the hard thing for me is that like I get into this really bad

16:37 situation where come november I just like let myself go. It happens every single year. Yeah. I just go ham on shit. Thanksgiving comes around. And

16:48 I He Too much nutmeg. It's like or not nutmeg, but ignored. Not make two.

16:56 So you know what I can't stand? Cloves. Let's talk about clothes for a minute. No, but like I do I do like a little eggnog with a little that brandy in there. You know, you put in a little Tonyak in your eggnog. Yeah. And so like, but that goes straight to your gut, you know? Of course it does. And so I hate this because this is like the Freaking seventh year of random shows or whatever, where it's like every December, it's like, I want to be less fat and drink less. And like It's like you know, I get a good running start on the new year though. So I I am gonna go into this. Maybe we'll put together like a compilation all the times we've said. Ten years. So

17:34 I think I'm just gonna lean into and do the exact opposite. Just keep eating and just keep drinking. I'm just kidding. That's horrible. No, but I I think one of the things that you and I were trading links on a couple of days ago, which were I'd really curious to get your take on this, is like There's like this movement well not movement, it's called Well it's movement, but it's old people movement of like You know, you and I when we first met The name of the game is broy as this might sound, is like we wanted to put muscle mass on. Like we were like, you know.

18:01 Sure. Meethead Central. Yeah. Yeah. Like I wouldn't say full Meathead, but there was a good amount of meat there. It's pretty made head. So the transition from meathead to like Somebody that actually just wants to like

18:13 be able to like stretch. Yeah, and do do like functional stuff. Like we were talking about functional patterns because you know it was an account that I had followed for a while and they had some kind of more non traditional ways of approaching your gate and your movement and really setting you hopefully Up for years of good solid longevity in terms of joint health, back health. All these things and I sent you another one.

18:37 that you were checking out as well. What's been your take here? 'Cause I'm starting to make this move into like, okay I want a lot of movement and a lot of core plus plus strength. I'd love to be lean.

18:51 I don't need to be ripped. Although did you see the new Hugh Jackman Wolverine? With him Deadpool. He's a beast. Yeah. Do you think that was Freaking animated or was that really Hugh Jackman's body at the stage? I think it's really um.

19:04 That's insane. How can he freaking have a pretty good authority. B. That is him. Yeah.

19:10 Dude, how does he get cut like that? It was insane. He takes it seriously, follows the basics, follows the rules, doesn't waver. He's very dedicated and he is a real Athlete. I mean you watch him move. He moves like a dancer, he can lift like a power lifter. His endurance on sick on a rower, like a concept two, is unbelievable. Like the watta that he can sustain over periods of time would boggle the mind.

19:36 Hm. of even some people who've been former competitive rowers. He is a he is a true athlete. Okay. Legitimate. Yeah. So anyway, but my point being is that like there's this little micro trend I see a occurring where A lot of people are making this move to a more functional, holistic kind of movement based health and strength and training.

19:56 That is non traditional as we define it. Where do you see that playing into your own routine? Is that something that you're looking into? Yeah, I've thought about this a lot, too. Are texts We're well timed. And

20:10 I want to give credit where credit is due, first to you for introducing me to this account. And then I ended up doing a bunch of research on this account that I did not tell you about. So I will probably pronounce the name incorrectly and for that I apologize, but I believe his name is Nsima In Yang. Now the spelling on that. will be more accurate than that my pronunciation, but N S I M A, that's probably all you need to find him.

20:35 on YouTube, in Yang, I-N Y A N G. So in Sima Has this video which you sent to me. Now yes, that is You two. Clickbait on one hand, but he actually does deliver on that. His production value is incredible. His delivery is impeccable.

20:54 I was very, very impressed. I went back and watched certain sections of this. His agility too, just insane. His agility is incredible. In terms of power He's a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitor as well at a very, very high level. I think he won. Worlds or masters worlds at brown belt most recently is now a black belt.

21:13 Which is no joke. And I reached out to a friend of mine, Mark Bell. Who is very well known in the powerlifting community. He also has a number of products that have done Very, very well.

21:26 And I met, I realized, and Sima at Super training gym in Sacramento. Like decade ago. Oh crazy. When he was still really focused on Powerlifting.

21:40 met him very, very briefly. I'm almost a hundred percent confident. I remember he was doing deadlift band poles while I was there checking out the gym for the first time. This was a long time ago. So I chatted with Mark about in Simahu. Market.

21:56 Reinforced is the real deal on every possible level. And The piece that I took from that video specifically was paying attention to what he calls and others have called the spinal engine. And there's a book actually by that title, The Spinal Engine. The name again. Tough one. I think it's Serge Grokovitsky, S E R G E. And we'll put a link in the show notes. But in effect

22:22 I'll actually pull this up because I think it's worth Reading. So the spinal engine and you can watch the video and Cima does a great job with video of explaining this. But the book has in its Amazon description, and there's no digital version, you have to buy paperback for like a hundred and fifteen bucks. So I'm not saying you should. I haven't read it, but this book deals with the human spine with particular emphasis on the lumbar spine. Human gait is traditionally believed to be the exclusive function of the legs, or say the swinging of the arms and the legs. Which play a part, but going back to the description, the book presents arguments and data that challenge that belief. It proposes that the spine is the primary engine that makes us move. And it goes on and on. And

23:02 What I think and Sima does such a nice job of. Yes. Showing that demonstrating the the implications of that theory through video. And also using

23:16 Two Demonstrate how you can develop Mobility. through different planes of motion.

23:27 Yeah. So you have various things, lateral flexion, you have flexion extension in terms of This type of forward backward plan. And It really got me thinking, and I started experimenting with some of the motions in that video. Primarily because his counterexample, which is effectively

23:45 the lie of traditional strength training is how if you're constantly bracing, you're constantly say holding your breath in certain portions of a lift. To increase interabdominal pressure. That ultimately. As a side effect you can produce a lot of rigidity. In the spine.

24:00 And I really have never had an interest in being a powerlifter or even an Olympic weightlifter, although I think they should more accurately be called powerlifters. I've always been Focused on weight training in service of athleticism. And I've loved playing sports.

24:18 have traditionally competed a lot. And I may actually compete in twenty twenty five in some form of sport. I would like to have something on the calendar for that. Number of Cautionary notes and then I'll come back to how I'm thinking about Maybe Framing exercise for myself.

24:34 The first is that you should not go from all fucked up and broken and stiff to I'm going to do the most exaggerated rotational movements possible. Yeah or pulling a sled backwards in this compromised rounded back position. You will break yourself if you do that. So I think the name of the game is micro progressions and Progressive resistance, but being very, very smart about it. Because as you have experienced, certainly as I have experienced, as you get older and you accumulate. Injuries. It takes a lot longer to heal and sometimes those things do not heal completely, no matter what you do.

25:10 I got one of those splits machines where you can like put your legs in there and then Chuck Norris. Special. Yeah, yeah. I had like the Chuck Norris thing on the outside. I was doing it and I was getting further and further and further each week, and my applause instructor was like What the hell are you doing? And I'm like I'm gonna do the splits in like a couple months. And she's like, you have no supporting muscles at all for any of this. She's like, when you get done, you'll go down once and then you will only be able to like everything else will rip, you know? And I was like oh shit, that's a good call. I'm glad I didn't take it that far. Good point. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, I

25:45 I'm focused on a few things and I've actually made a lot of progress with this over the last handful of months and in twenty twenty five. I will be very focused on this. For the first two months of the year, I'll be focused on skiing. So I'll be in the mountains for two months. And that is a great motivator to develop. Say different types of stability and strength. Mm-hmm. Single leg. So lifts and so on.

26:08 And having that context in which to test myself, right? So if I'm carving in one direction and then in the other, say the inside leg is very unstable, for some reason it's chattering a lot. Well, that's something to fix. And the skiing serves as a fun. Assuming you don't overdo it. and blow yourself apart diagnostic tool for bringing to awareness some of these things you need to work on. And I'd say priorities, these aren't necessarily in ranked order, but number one, as you get older, you lose muscle mass. You just do.

26:38 And that's age related muscle loss, sarcopenia is Directly correlated to any number of Issues I'm sure including all cause mortality. So weight training, resistance training. building muscle mass is in

26:54 Undeniable. priority for functional health spin as you get older. But For me, that means compound movements once or twice a week.

27:06 you really don't need to overdo it or do it five days a week. A lot of people use five days a week or every day as an excuse to not get started. You can make a lot of progress, especially if you haven't done much weight training. With One day. one session per week if you're using, say, a high intensity training.

27:25 one set to failure type protocol. I recognize it's very simple. I recognize there are some very experienced athletes who will say, well, no, you want to do Five sets of three or five sets of five or whatever it might be with three to five minute rest intervals in between to replenish the creatine phosphate. But Complexity can be the enemy of execution, as Tony Robbins and others say a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it's like

27:47 Just scale down to what you can do. If you're starting an exercise habit, if that means you go to the gym, Every day and you do five minutes on a treadmill. Make the bar low enough that you can clear it and you are not tempted to make excuses. Let me ask you a question. If you're like, okay. I don't want to be a meathead.

28:05 But I want a little muscle mass. So I want like some tone, some definition, a little bit of muscle mass. You know, and I've seen the pros and cons of one set to failure and the data around it. It seems to be that It's good, but not as good as multiple sets of failure. For a single muscle group, would you say that?

28:21 You believe that to be true. Or are you doing one set to failure with if you're doing bicep, let's just take bicep for example. If you're doing one set to failure. Are you doing several exercises on the bicep one set to failure? Or are you just talking about You're just doing hammer curls until you fail, and that's it for biceps that day. Let's just take skiing as an example.

28:40 So my priority is gonna be skiing. And there are actually a few other sports I'll be training for at the same time. So I'll be a busy, busy boy for the first two months of the year, which is great. I'll need to lose all this fat that I accumulated over Thanksgiving at Christmas. Cause I know those Danish butter cookies that my mom bought at Costco are just waiting for me. I know it. I know they're sitting there. So The one set to failure. or multiple sets to failure. Training two failure can

29:05 inhibit your ability to train something sport specific, like skiing if you overdo it. For instance, I would not even though you could pack on tons of muscle doing twenty rep Set to failure. for squats, if you do that and then you try to go skiing the next two or three days, you're gonna be garbage from uh sort of Fine motor. control perspective.

29:25 But to answer your question directly, I have not looked at the most recent data on any of this. I'm not sure there exists data comparing these in meaningful ways that do not bias towards one method or another. Because I have volunteer to be a participant, a subject in certain weightlifting trials. I'm not gonna mention the university because I don't want to s throw them under the bus, but when I went in there. The protocol required us to do

29:50 10 reps of bench press for X number of sets. And I went in there and you'd see one guy get on the bench because there's a circuit, right? They're trying to make use of basically. An open class period for volunteers. You'd see one person who's basically dropping the weight onto his chest. At a risk of Breaking every one of his ribs and bouncing it off.

30:10 Oh geez, like those in terrible form. Terrible form. very, very little time under tension. And then you'd see someone else who's doing like two seconds up. Four seconds down, pause at the chest. Those are not the same ten repetitions, right? Yeah. So I do think I'm under tension is completely different. Yeah, so I think garbage in, garbage out for a lot of these studies, so I don't weigh them too

30:31 Heavily, but what I will say is If you are reasonably novice, even intermediate for training, and by the way. If you've been training for a bunch of years and you haven't made a lot of progress, I would consider you novice. If you do a single set to concentric failure. Per exercise and I'll come back and then answer the what type of exercise and so on that that you asked.

30:53 You will see excellent results. And there may be some incremental gain from doing multiple sets, but it's going to dig into your recovery ability. So you're saying one set. Yeah. And now let me tell you what the one set means. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's gonna be. What the one set means. And I've gone back. to all of my books kind of function this way. Like all of my books are sort of reference books for myself. I go around. I

31:16 I gather these best practices that I've tested. And then I refer back to them. So in the case of, say, the four hour body. the Occam's protocol and a handful of compound movements still does the trick. for the vast majority of the population. I'm sure people are gonna take issue with this, but I have now like hundreds of thousands millions of people who've tried these things and I've seen

31:39 Success studies. Like it does work. Yes, it's simple. Yes it could be more sophisticated. It is Idiot proof for a reason.

31:48 That If I go into lift. I'm not gonna be doing direct bicep work. I'm gonna be doing something like A seeded row.

31:57 And then a pull down. And if I'm hitting the back from a few different angles. That's it. I might honestly just do one of those, like I might do one compound pulling movement. one compound pressing movement and then one or two.

32:12 Leg movements, that's the whole workout. The whole workout should take less than twenty minutes. People say, What about warm up sets? Well, if you're tracking your progress while you're using the same equipment. And you're Lifting at a slow cadence. This is key.

32:26 The first handful of reps effectively function as your warm up. Now what I'll often do. Yeah, Like thirty percent of the target working weight that I'm going to use for my one set to failure. And I'll do Three, four, five.

32:40 Reps. Just to make sure my joints. Alright. flared up that I'm not feeling any pain.

32:46 And then I would have say an A workout and a B workout. So let's just say hypothetically I'm making this up, but you might have Something like a Close grip incline bench press to just avoid issues with your shoulders, let's just say. Then you have

33:02 Pull downs like close grip. Supinated, so palm facing you, pull downs. And then a leg press or split squats. holding dumbbells on either side. So you're also hitting your traps in that one. Right.

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34:36 go to shopify.com slash Tim. to start selling today with Shopify. One more time, Shopify.com slash Tim. One thing we didn't cover that I think is really important is you say one step to failure, but what's your target

34:53 Reps here. Are you going for like You know, some people say lift heavy. And and do eight to ten. Some people say go a little bit lighter, get to twenty to where you fail at twenty. What are you aiming for here?

35:03 For safety purposes and again. Everybody's got a fucking opinion with this stuff, but use something akin to a super slow protocol, which is like five seconds up, five seconds down. And then You can do. Six to ten reps.

35:16 But I wouldn't increase the weight until you get to like an eight to ten rep range. You can increase that for the legs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I wouldn't make it complicated. I would say. Five seconds up, five seconds down. That's one one thousand, two one thousand.

35:32 Slow. And Let's call it six to ten reps to failure. Positive or concentric failure means you're on the in the case of the pull down, the pulling motion, this is when the muscle is overlapping and and shortening.

35:45 In the case of the leg press, let's just say, or the squats, it would be when you're pushing out, not when you're lowering. in the case of the close grip bench press, it would be when you're lifting the weight up. That's the positive portion. Then you get to the point where you stick, you can't move it. All right, push for another 10 seconds as hard as you can. Try to move it a millimeter at a time, and then lower for 10 seconds, you're done. And then you have to Log the entire workout.

36:08 not hard to do. You need to take notes. If you don't take notes, you're not going to make the progress you want to make. And then the second workout just to again hypothetical doesn't really matter that much. As long as it's safe and it's a compound movement, you're doing it to failure, you're going to make progress. So let's just say that your shoulders are healthy enough to do this, it could be like overhead press or a military press. And I'm equipment agnostic. People can argue about free weights versus machines. My position now is whatever is safest. Yeah. And whatever you can do consistently. So if you're traveling a lot, then hire a personal trainer or a powerlifter or someone with very good technique.

36:42 to coach you on how to use free weights because those are going to be uniform. around the country or around the world instead of equipment, which is gonna be highly variable. So on the next one might be like overhead press or seated overhead press. Then uh we already did the pull down, so maybe it's a seated row or a bent row with a barbell. than for legs we already did. I think I was talking about split squats with

37:06 dumbbells so maybe at this time it's leg press. I have, for instance, my right leg is one point one centimeters. I had full leg x rays done a year ago. Because a number of doctors thought I was full of shit with this. And I was like, I really think one leg is longer than the other. I've looked at it a number of different ways. My right leg is about Like femur.

37:26 Length. is like 0.8 centimeters to 1.1 centimeters. I did two takes of X-rays. So what happens if I'm doing, say, a back squat is it introduces a rotational force. And That is how I initially turned my mildly bad back pain into

37:44 really acute horrifying back pain that has persisted now for Two years or so. I've made a lot of progress. And I can talk about what's contributed to that. Actually an experiment recently with stem cells seem to be Delivering some very interesting results. I'm not ready to recommend any.

37:59 Laboratories related to the production or harvesting of the stem cells, nor any clinics, because I want to wait until I see more longitudinal results for myself, but the early indications are very positive and uh TLDR on that is that I did not want to inject anything intra discal. I didn't want to puncture any discs. And there are many reasons for that. I've spoken to a lot of spine mechanic experts and so on. It seems that the long term risk of having some type of issue with your disc.

38:28 Yeah. Or a rupture is higher if you ever puncture the disc. So I didn't want to do that. And Rather than do that, because my pain is localized to like the SI joint and L four, L five, where I do have a bunch of structural issues, we did something maybe um a little unorthodox in a sense, and there's something called the ileolumbar ligament. And you have two of them. And people can look this up. But I used to think

38:55 And I do still think this, like you're you're effectively as old as your joints feel. Right. I really think there's something to that. Especially when you throw your back out and you're like walk. You've never felt older than your life. And when you have to crawl to your bed on your hands and knees because your back gets thrown out. Yeah. Or lay on your bed. Or like you have to constantly fidget'cause your back is bothering you. Yes.

39:17 Where I've started to think there may be for me some interesting interventions because what we did is we did an an an injection. I mean the the needle's huge. That's like Five to eight inches long. Yeah. But an injection in the SI joint.

39:32 But then also bathing the I didn't want an injection directly into the ligament just because I couldn't take the recovery time for that, but to bathe around the ligament with these stem cells. MSCs and Within literally within a day I felt relief in that area. So it raises questions for me around

39:57 How you diagnose back pain or look at structural issues. And what's visible versus less visible. So in other words When you look at back pain. Oftentimes you do imaging, you look at the spine.

40:11 and you fixate on the set joints and the vertebral bodies and the segments and so on. And if you're over the age of forty, your back's gonna look Fucked in some way. Like it's gonna that's not gonna look great. Like as you get older, just like you get wrinkles on your face, like your back is gonna show. Degenerative changes. Almost a hundred percent.

40:30 Especially if you've done any lifting or athletic anything. And what is less obvious though is the health or inflammation associated with some of these ligaments. So I've become super interested based on my recent experience. And I know friends from friction massage who have seen tremendous back pain relief. Mm. What is friction massage?

40:53 You could use like a gua sha tool. There are different ways to do it. Like where they break the the fascia up. It's like a rapid pressure movement back and forth. So you could use a gua sha tool. It's probably gonna be too big. for this particular area you might use probably using manual therapy. But I have friends who've seen incredible relief in

41:13 What appears to be the case is that If I address those ligaments, a lot of my low back pain goes away. Now the contrast between my right side, which was treated, my left side, which was untreated. But my left side, I considered the healthy side, I now realize it's actually in a lot of pain. So what I may do, I'm part of a clinical trial, and you take a six month break between stem cells for a host of reasons. I may actually do PRP. Platelet rich plasma.

41:40 On that left side. We'll see. Get the vampire facial while you're at it. I'll get a two for one vampire fish while I'm while I'm there. Get the package deal. So hopefully that helps. And we only talked about one aspect of how I'm thinking about health, which is the muscle mass. For me, since I am doing the skiing training and other things. I will probably not do extended sets to failure because it'll inhibit my training.

42:03 I will probably do something in the order of more like the three to five. rep range, still doing it slowly enough that I feel like it is very under control, nothing ballistic. I'm gonna get plenty of ballistic and dynamic movements from the skiing itself. One question on the recovery side, you know, is back in the day it was like one gram of protein per pound of body weight to get, you know, any type of like

42:26 muscle growth. What's your current regimen look like for something like this? Cause I mean you're not going for massive gains here. So it's not like it'd be perfect. Are you still getting adequate protein? Are you putting a lot of protein in there when you're doing these training days? Yeah, I will. I mean, especially because I'll be training I'll basically be training at the gym at night before dinner and I will be

42:43 skiing and taking very serious technical lessons and trying some pretty gnarly stuff for me. In terms of reasonably intense training. No, no, no, no. Not that intense. No. You do a half pipe? No, not half pipe. I'm just talking about like bumps and backcountry stuff. Oh back country stuff. Yeah. Also like ski touring. I'll be skinning basically you work your way up the mountain and then you ski down and stuff. So it's gonna be physically

43:08 Intensive. I'll also be eating quite a lot of carbs, but probably I will almost certainly get at least one gram of protein per pound body weight. I don't think that's overkill. All right. Yeah. And I'll show you one more thing that's kind of fun.

43:22 Yeah. And I've been looking very closely at this. I don't feel comfortable promoting any brands yet because I have some technical questions, but I have been experimenting with something called The acronym is Lycus. L I C U S, which is So I've got this shit. What is this? And then another one over here. If you're not seeing the video, it looks like he's part cyborg now.

43:49 And then you set how many hours you want on this thing, and it is low intensity continuous ultrasound. Is this why you're so chill right now? What's going on? What is this thing doing? No, no. This is not why I'm so chill. I mean, who knows? I don't think so. This is A device that safely administers low intensity ultrasound over a period of one to four hours. per site of treatment. So I currently have Two of these coupling patches.

44:17 One on the front of my shoulder, one at the rear of the shoulder. I have a bunch of tendonitis around the insertion points. Oh, so this has nothing to do with your Hawaii trip. It's not like No no no. This is swimming. Talking to dolphins. No, no. This is for recovery, but also The low intensity continuous ultrasound, so like is L I C U S, you can find a lot of interesting studies on this. And I'll mention a site. I don't know if I mentioned it before, but consensus.app.

44:44 which uses AI to assess published literature from reputable journals to determine If something is a thumbs up, thumbs down, or inconclusive. So you could put something in like, is there any evidence that low intensity continuous ultrasound helps with Tissue remodeling or sports recovery. You'll get an answer. It's not perfect, but it's actually very helpful to get an initial indication. Part of what I find interesting about this.

45:10 Some other types of say, for instance, electrical stimulation. Like there are tens units that you can use. that will effectively reduce pain. By and this is not scientific.

45:22 description, but they're effectively overriding your nerves or over stimulating your nerves with certain frequencies to turn off or mute the pain signaling. That's not what this is doing. This technology seems to actually help with tissue remodeling and proliferation of different growth factors. And I really remember the first time I used this within an hour, this acute pain in my shoulder just vanished. Crazy.

45:47 Now could that be placebo? Like it could be placebo. What's the cost on this? It's not cheap. Yeah. Which is why most people go into a clinic to use something like this. But they get you with the razor blades approach. So the device itself, who knows? But these coupling patches are very expensive. So

46:04 To get if I'm using it once a day. Or twice a day, I've been using it a lot. It's like ten grand for two months. Jesus. It's expensive. How much of the

46:14 Patches. Like a grand a pop like one box of four. I think it's four four four four four four four four four, so it'd be like Sixteen patches, something like 900 bucks. It's very expensive. But

46:26 There are some people out there for whom this will be out of reach, but you may be able to find a clinic where you could do this on Sort of an as needed basis. Who knows? Once a week. There may be some minimum cadence necessary to see the results that you would want, but there are also people out there for whom this may make sense. And hopefully. As this technology and you've seen this happen a million times, so have I as it becomes

46:47 More Popular. as the technology gets more developed. as there's more competition. The price drops tremendously. You know what's funny is I've seen in podcasts, you know, you and I've been

46:58 part of this word. Like you'll mention something that's like three grand or whatever or something crazy and there's like Well that Tim. Fucking rich guy can like afford all these things, blah blah blah. But

47:07 Honestly, what happens that I think is so beautiful about This stuff is like If you can get the higher end folks to like that want to go and experiment at the edges here that have the disposable income. They're doing nothing but dropping the prices for the masses'cause they have to ramp up production over time.

47:24 And it's like it's funny, I've I've seen this happen so many times, even in drug stuff as well. Like when I first started taking Rapatha. as an alternative to Cholesterol meds. And it wasn't covered out of pocket, it was like twenty five hundred dollars a month. It was like ridiculous.

47:37 And now Amazon has it for five hundred. That's no insurance, you know? And it's like it just it takes time for these things to come down and hit the masses and And with those VO two Max machines too that you can get at home now. I don't know if you messed around with those. I just got one of those. It's insane. It's insane. But it it's great because you say you don't have to go to the clinic and you can save the time and then eventually these will be less expensive for everyone.

47:58 Yeah. I mean we've seen it with Uber, right? Uber Black in the beginning. was definitely kind of a one percenter thing, but it subsidized the development of I mean that was jet travel though as well. Uber X. Tesla. Same thing.

48:10 I mean there are many, many examples. I would say I'll give people some recommendations that are not expensive. At all. Which I'm equally focused on, actually more focused on. Like this is a nice bonus. And I'm still

48:22 Experimenting with it. Jury's out. It seems to be very helpful. But I wanna see longer term. There is a chapter in and I'll see if I can share some of this. I'll put a link. in the show notes for people I'll share at least some of this.

48:37 Called Reversing Permanent injuries. I will link to it for folks, but

48:45 The exercise is in that. Still deliver so much like the bang for the buck in doing some of the gray cook exercises, the chop and lift with cable machines, the Turkish get up, even if you're just doing the first portion of that on the ground for shoulder health. I mean, there's so many benefits to a handful of exercises in terms of injury prevention. And

49:11 You have to invest in that stuff as you get older. If you want to be active, if you want to be athletic. Your body just does not have the elasticity. And the regenerative ability that it used to. And that, for instance, part of the reason I I went back to that chapter is that the Chop and lift exercise have a slow under control rotational component.

49:33 that I felt was Not dynamically. but still compatible with getting me. closer to developing or redeveloping the spinal engine that N Seema and Yang talks about.

49:46 I was like, Okay, look. Let me take Small safe steps. Towards Incorporating.

49:53 Some very mild. Rotational exercises. Mm-hmm Yeah. That's where I'm starting. Feels good. Feels great. And I'm doing it.

50:02 First thing in the morning, wake up. Cold brew coffee right now. And then the Hawaiian coffee's incredible. So yeah, this is this has been my reentry we can after my thirty, forty days of abstinence. Like wake up immediately, have a cold brew, and then go to the gym.

50:17 That's a big shot. Like the Hawaiian coffee's no joke. That's like some strong stuff. It's so good. It's delicious. It's my favorite coffee on the planet. There's something about How just dark and dense and it feels very nutrient rich, like antioxidant rich to me. You know. It's good stuff, too. Cone of coffee is good. All right. So we get a few other predictions and fun things? Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. Okay, so

50:41 We are tons. I just gave several TED talks, so you should Yeah, so I'll just do I'll do some rapid fire fun stuff here. So Damp January. I'm gonna drink uh six or less drinks per month. Moving on to investments. Like I ran through that one. Listen, the drinking thing, well, I'm I actually am cutting back in time. You know, I'm not drinking tonight. Look at that. Look, look at that. Hey, baby steps. One of the things I've realized

51:06 Especially as you get older, is it as life gets more complex. There has to be this kind of continual, especially as you have kids and other things. 'Cause continual reevaluating of Your processes like every year, how can you turn down the knob and automate more things than you had the previous year? Just for my own sanity.

51:25 So eliminate more things too. Yes. Yes. And so In that theme I've gotten really simple on the investing front. Like vast majority of my exposure is at True Ventures, where it we take a lot on a lot of risk. That's what we do for our day jobs. I'm gonna try a new app called Monarch. It's not new, but it's been around for a while for tracking my finances and finally get A budget under control starting January.

51:45 You've been using it, right? For a bit. Yeah, but using it. It's great. What do you like about it? So there's a couple of them out there that I I really like. I like for like holistic net worth just where am I in the world? There's a bunch of tools out there. Projection lab is where mine the world meaning like big picture. What does my whole thing look like? Yeah, exactly.

52:05 And so I would say that You know Projection lab is good of uh kind of looking where you're spinning in terms of like How soon can I retire and what does my retirement look like? In planning for different scenarios, I think that's probably the best app out there.

52:19 What was it called? Projection lab? Copilot has always been my favorite on mobile, but Monarch is now just it ties together all my counts in a view. That I think is more data rich.

52:30 Especially on the budgeting side. Then Co pilot. So I've kinda started to move over to Monarch more full time.

52:38 Which is great. Those two and then uh gosh, I'm drawing a blink of the the last one um for the kind of like overview of everything. You're gonna kill me'cause it's a fantastic. What's that? For her premium?

52:51 Exactly. So There's Tim. He's back, everybody. Now I can't even blame it on the booth. Yeah, exactly. Before you were like I'm hammered.

53:02 Do you actually buy their premium? No. I don't know. You would answer it. Yeah, I'm not sure my public favorites. Yeah, exactly. Kubera is my overview app that I think is the best for like tracking all kind of your your larger investments and like over. What was the name? No wonder you forgot it. Cubera.

53:24 K U B E R A. I love Cubera. I think it's it's really high quality software. So Anyway, that's that. So let me just go quickly down the investment front. VTI because it gives you global exposure. I love that. I get the total stock market index there. It's Vanguard, it's low cost.

53:41 It's like I wanna have the majority of my stuff in there. I have moved my crypto allocation to ten percent of overall net worth. From about four to five percent.

53:52 Oh, you increased your holdings. I increased. Now okay. Did you increase it or is that just reflective of an increase in value? No, I increased it. I've you bought it. Yes, I've been buying more. The last few months. I had this feeling that Trump was gonna win. And I started buying more crypto when I had that gut feeling. Just because I I think that he's going to push a massive

54:13 Crypto. agenda and I believe that if This is the probably in the more prediction side. I I think in the next couple of years we're gonna see for the very first time the US government's gonna start adding crypto. to our reserves.

54:25 We'll treat it as a currency that we hold in our reserves. And when that happens It's gonna be nuts. I think we're gonna hit Mai Gut says two fifty Two hundred fifty thousand or more a coin.

54:36 In the next couple of years. So we'll see where that Goes. Now if somebody listening is like Kevin's just shilling his bags, what would you say to that? I would say A lot of people said this. I don't know, like

54:46 I was Talking about idiot. No, no, I I get it, but like this isn't. Here's the deal about shilling your bags. I'm giving the D T S D five. No, X no the no, but this is this is the real truth. Okay.

54:57 Let's go and take a look at how much Bitcoin traded today in terms of volume. Okay. So I love Or podcast that we're both gonna syndicate this episode on our respective feeds.

55:09 But like we're not moving trillions of dollars of Bitcoin because I say it's going to 250 coin. I could go right now on Coinbase, right now. And say sell twenty million in Bitcoin, press a button at market, and it would hardly even like Tik Like a little tiny tick. 'Cause there's so much volume.

55:27 No amount of shilling could move it in in any meaningful way. It just can't happen. Yeah. Ten years ago. You and I go on here, talk about Bitcoin, and we just made ourselves like, you know, five million bucks. But you know what I mean? Like that's not the case anymore. There's it's just too massive. So anyway, there's no there's no such thing as chilling anymore.

55:43 At least when it was Bitcoin. If we're talking about shit coins, which are happening a lot right now, that's the uh stuff that's like just so stupid. I don't even get involved in. So anyway. I hold bitcoin. I purposely hold it. in an account that I can't touch. So I like this because like Coinbase has a feature Call custody.

56:00 where you can't withdraw it for like three days. Enterprise level self control. Yeah, exactly. It's like a forced hold I like doing it and I've I've now stopped trading it. So I don't even look at the price. I'm like, it's just part of my Overall holdings. I'm gonna hold it for the next fifty plus years.

56:16 Like I want to hand my kids Bitcoin. It's gone from like when do I sell it? Like, ooh, is it too high? Should I sell right now? Like those days are over. Now it's just like part of the portfolio, so it goes It's digital assets.

56:27 It's not going away. You can't put digital assets back in the box. Like Back in the tube or whatever the wherever the genie comes out of. Back in the tube. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So last thing I will say, now I do like to play, you know, do little one off stock buys every now and then. I got very really lucky'cause we called NVIDIA pretty early on your podcast before. Which is good.

56:50 But I have enough friends that are large executives at major companies in the tech Arena. That they are all talking about nuclear power.

57:01 And I don't know how to play it, but my gut tells me over the next decade. There's gonna be I'm pretty bullish on the return of nuclear to the United States just out of our sheer capacity for power that we need for data centers on the AI side. Like we need alternative s forms of energy.

57:18 Especially if coal plants are shut down. Well, I mean I don't think that's gonna happen. I'm not saying all. I'm not saying all. If you want to play the broad basket and you're thinking about this over the long term, and I was just speaking for myself, this is not investment advice. But I did find there's a fund

57:32 that like holds like uranium manufacturers and some like nuclear plants and some of the companies that are thinking about doing these new smaller plants. And so it's like a basket of public nuclear stocks right now, and they will add to it as other nuclear companies go public. And so like I'm not in the game of going and saying, Hey, this is the nuclear future, it's this one company, right? Because that to me would be like

57:54 It seems too much like angel investing or something else. So anyway, the one I I look at is uh the only one I could really find was N L R Which is the uh Veneck ETF trust uranium and nuclear basket. It's got a pretty high expense ratio, but like I'm doing a really small piece into it just because I think over the next decades gonna outperform the S P, that's all.

58:14 That's just for fun on the kind of investment in going into the new year. And then I got a bunch of predictions. Uh yeah, throw throw some of the predictions out. Okay, so Prediction number one, Bitcoin hits two fifty US government starts adding it to the You think that's in twenty twenty five? I think that is In the next two years. So I'll kick that out, say within the next two years.

58:32 I think several AI companies next year struggle to raise capital and go under, and I'm talking some of the bigs that have raised Hundreds of millions of dollars. Because I think what's gonna happen is that I shouldn't say the bigs, the big players that are in the startup space now. I think the quote unquote bigs, like the Alphabet companies are just gonna run the table when it comes to most AI related things.

58:53 And if that's the case. I kinda just want to hold those stocks. Open AI I'm still like You know, they're so intertwined with Microsoft, I think that they'll be fine. Plus they're working on other devices as well.

59:03 Speaking of which, one of my predictions will be that open AI launches some type of mobile device, maybe some type of smart headphones this coming year. Because they have to be at the metal level, meaning like They have to be at the device level that we all carry around. And when you have

59:18 Press and hold Apple intelligence. Just by holding on the side of your phone now. And you have press and hold, like, you know how you used to query like Siri or whatever. And now you have that same going on with Gemini with Google. Now you've got AI.

59:31 at the phone level already carried by the big providers. to get someone to think like oh I gotta go download chat GPT So I can go and switch it out as my assistant or this and set up shortcuts and all that. And it's like If it's like ninety percent as good.

59:46 People won't care. You know what I mean? It's like I don't care if I'm streaming Lord of the Rings off of freaking Hulu or Prime or Apple TV. I just want to watch the movie, right?

59:57 And so it's like I think AI is gonna be kind of like that, where we'll just like, oh, I have an Apple phone, so I use Apple Intelligence. Like that's kind of where it's interesting. Yeah. Well, see so you think of like where could they get the wedge in the door into the headset's interesting, right? Because if they made a really good set of basically AirPod clones of some type. But intelligent with AI built in. Yeah. Had that built in. But basically, they're not going to replace the iPhone, right? They're not going to replace good Android phones for people who already use those. But they could replace Wireless. AirPods.

1:00:28 The only way I think they would have a chance at replacing not replacing the iPhone, but being a top seller. would be that they do something so first principles oriented where it's like A type of UI UX that we just haven't even imagined yet. I heard they were working with Johnny Ive on some of this stuff.

1:00:46 And so, you know, you got the former like industrial designer head of design for Apple. coming to the table with OpenAI saying, hey, let's go back to the drawing board and say, if we had to build a phone today, Would it be with a series of app icons on here, or might there be a different interface that makes us Way more sexy, but more fun.

1:01:04 'Cause like the future is not gonna be Hey, I'm gonna go launch hotels.com app and say Get me a room in Japan in two weeks. negotiate all the things, put in my credit card credentials. It's gonna be literally You open your AI and you say, Hey, can you get me a room for Japan at this hotel?

1:01:21 In two weeks and they'll be like, Which room do you want? These three things, blah, blah, blah. And you like this room and it's like Boom, it's already got my information. It's all APIs behind the scenes. It ha it hands all that data over. The exchange is done, the payment is done, and it's just like It's finalized within thirty seconds.

1:01:36 versus the fifteen minute thing. I mean I guess what someone like OpenI could do. Yes. Something along the lines of a fantasy I've had for a long time, which is like a Very dumb.

1:01:48 Phone? That I remember last this is a year almost a year ago, I was telling my friends it'd be great to have a one button phone. And the one button phone at that time. would have basically sent voice or routed a phone call to

1:02:03 A virtual assistant or someone who handles everything for me. outside of like Google Maps. It's like all right, I have maps. And then I have one request button for everything. Right. That's it. just to avoid the metastasized mess of having a thousand apps and thousand notifications and all that bullshit. And I know

1:02:23 Some very accomplished professionals who have stopped taking their iPhone into their office. Like they leave it in some type of locker or maybe they leave it someplace safe at like the reception and they take their dumb phone. into say the office where they're doing their real work and their family has that number, right? Ringer is on for emergencies. It has maps and that's it.

1:02:48 There's nothing else. So you could envision Something that is effectively The one button phone, but it's using An AI assistant. Yes, open AI.

1:02:57 Hundred percent. Yeah, I think you're exactly right in that like there's probably the two or three things that you still need, and it's not Instagram, it's not a full suite of things. It's like, okay, I maybe I still need to call or hail an Uber at this corner and see when it's pulling up. Right. Like Maps maybe Uber and then Music probably. Yeah, music and like credit cards. Like that's it. Right. You don't need anything else. And like AI could serve up music. I mean, I don't know exactly how they would do it, but there'd be a way to do it.

1:03:25 Oh, they'll have APIs with all that stuff. They can sell APIs for everything. Yeah. And Coming back to what we were saying earlier too, it's like okay, well, most people are not gonna replace their phone with that, but could they get a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand techies to overpay? for that to do the basically Field testing for them? Sure they could.

1:03:46 Hundred percent. Almost certainly. As the technology kind of matures behind the scenes I mean, this is the playbook that I think is finally starting to work for Meta. where they have these Ray Ban glasses. that it's the first time I've seen a meta product where I've said, Okay. I mean, we've been talking about VR and AR for so long and how stupid it is.

1:04:04 As long as this show's been around. I know, Adam Gazzali still owes me a bottle of whiskey'cause he That's in your book. Yeah, so

1:04:12 Ray Bans finally is really starting to hit for Meta in that like, you know, you can walk up to people now. in Japan and like get real time translations, right? Like and you don't even look like you're wearing anything. Real time doxing too. You see the Harvard student who Oh, figured out how to use the Ray Ban glasses to immediately Docs everyone. You can be like, Oh hey, are you so and so who researches so and so? They're like, Oh my God, how'd you know? And it's like

1:04:35 'Cause they're getting a turn in the read out. Yeah, you're getting the terminator readout. Totally. Little higher fidelity than those graphics back then. But yeah, so a couple things though real quick on the prediction front, I'll and then I'm done. But I think Microsoft releases an Android phone largely because they have the suite there. They have Word. They have Excel, they have PowerPoint, they have drive, they have all the stuff, Outlook. You name it, I think it'll be Android based and they have chat GPT.

1:05:00 So I think on the open AI side, that will probably be integrated into the Microsoft phone. My gut tells me that's a no brainer for them. So Microsoft would subsidize the development and all that of this hardware as opposed to but it'd also be Android based. Okay. It's almost like getting a Google Phone. You know when you get a Google phone, you open it up and it's like got Gmail and Chrome and everything like baked in. If it is Android based, this is such a Luddite question, I should know the answer, but Does Gemini automatically come along for the ride? In which case that would be built-in competition for

1:05:33 Open AI if they used an Android phone? It's a great question because I know that Google had Some funky things back in the day. If you wanted to use Android, you had to include certain types of Google services behind the scenes, even though it's open source. I don't know to what extent and what you have to bundle, but I believe

1:05:53 Because if I look at Samsung phones and they have their own browsers and they have their own email and everything else and they're based on Android. That they could do the swap here, because Samsung already does it on the AI side and everything else. Lastly, I think We'll get some type of confirmation of aliens. And then

1:06:07 One last thing which I think is we'll see is we're gonna see a very massive unlock in creativity around music creation. happening in the next couple of years. So the same way that we're able to prompt and type in like Show me a fox swimming underwater grabbing an apple and now we you can't even tell it wasn't shot, you know, and it's like Just being generated these little four case snippets.

1:06:26 I think there's gonna be a way to Prompt. music creation. in a very fun and exciting

1:06:36 explosion of creativity that will make an average consumer sound that they can be a real producer for the first time. Just because I've seen some of these early betas. And they're they're a lot of fun. I think that's the next twelve months, maybe eighteen max. Yeah, I think eighteen sounds about right. Yeah. So You skipped over.

1:06:51 Damp January, which is fine. We'll let that sit. Yeah. Aliens. What so tell me more about the aliens. And what the hell's going on in New Jersey? Honestly, I just think I've been ignoring most of the news. Kinda to There's been this

1:07:04 I feel in the last three years, and I got a really awesome chance to sit down with that Navy fighter pilot that saw some of these things and There has been so much inquiry now, and then there also is a new change in government, obviously, that's pushing for so much more transparency. And I think that when you have someone Like and we don't have to get in the politics whether you love him or hate him or anything else, but when you have someone like Elon Musk in there Being Elon.

1:07:29 Like I can see the shaking free or at least the uncovering of whatever we know in this Domain being kind of declassified. And that to me is just horribly scary slash exciting at the same time. Yeah. Who knows?

1:07:44 Crazy. Yeah. I mean, what are the odds that you would place honestly? I in my head it's like Ninety percent there's it like aliens out there and then we know about it as a government. Guess we haven't talked about this because I don't want to sound like a fucking crazy person, but There was a point

1:07:59 Where This conversation was in the air enough. I was like, Okay. Let me do a deep dive. Two See what we can say with any degree of certainty and what we can't say with any degree of certainty.

1:08:13 And Looking at Government reports looking at various first person testimony f about the tic tac and so on. Yeah, that are very widely cited.

1:08:26 And Trying to account for the possibility that Some of these people not all of them and not necessarily people involved Tic Tac May see some benefit or appeal like

1:08:38 every human being on social media to getting attention, right? So you have to add that in as a possible contributing factor. What can we Conclude based on the available data. And what seems to be the case if you're looking at UAPs, right? This is It's what unidentified aerial phenomena now is the rebrand from UFO. So you don't sound like someone wearing a tinfoil hat.

1:09:03 And part of the reason that it's aerial phenomena as opposed to flying object is because the vast majority of these can be explained. Bye. say high altitude weather balloons or meteorological phenomena that cause a strange visual. effect in the sky that is noticeable by humans from the ground.

1:09:27 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There are like a ninety-five plus percent can be accounted for by that, or ninety plus percent. Then you have also a long government history of covering up. Test craft. Flights and so on. with reports of UFOs, right? So there's a crash of some prototype of

1:09:47 some type of weaponized technology or surveillance technology. And Especially many, many decades ago, they're worried about that news getting to our Enemies slash competitors overseas. So they drum up a misinformation campaign around it being UFO. Okay. So there's also a bunch of that. Taking all that into account, if you look at

1:10:08 congressional testimony and a bunch of other things. There do seem to be quite a few examples of documenting phenomena. Often recorded. From multiple Video.

1:10:20 Sources of that. Defy explanation. They seem to defy explanation and the descriptions of the behavior of these things. seem to defy any explanation using technology that is currently available to us.

1:10:35 But I would say That The idea that there are like little green men in these ships strikes me as kind of ridiculous unless they're tourists who just like are on Safari seeing what humans are doing. Yeah. Because if they're sufficiently advanced to do what

1:10:53 Some people report these craft doing. Why on earth would they have like we're already using drones for warfare and all sorts of things. Why would they Risk. That's right.

1:11:06 Life and injury. That's why I don't think it's that. I think it is tourism, dude. You're right. It could be tourism. And the ones that wreck are like the ones that you hear about in Africa when people go into the safaris and they have too many drinks and they just like fucking crash into Rhanaseris and then like get eaten or whatever. It's like some of these aliens are coming down here and It has to be something like that. We've had a few bevs. And they just they just fucking wreck their shit. Like teenage alien D UIs. Exactly. Yeah. Where'd Glob Glow go? Oh fuck.

1:11:36 Yeah, he's gone to earth again. Did he drink? Yeah, he took a few. Yeah, I mean maybe, maybe, right? I do think there are many more questions than answers, of course, but actually, you know, I'll give a shout out. There is an app called Enigma. Which runs machine learning on UAP sightings. So if people want to check that out, it's pretty interesting. Of course, we've seen a huge spike in New Jersey over the last period of time, but that's worth checking out. I'm actually just gonna double

1:12:05 Check. Did you see Moment of Contact, by the way? Nope. Oh, you gotta see this. Yeah, so Enigma Is Enigma Labs.io.

1:12:16 Make a note of this. Moment of contact. It's a Netflix documentary. about this nineteen ninety six crash in Brazil And it's like these citizens.

1:12:26 Dozens of them. Saw Not only the crash But the freaking aliens wandering around the neighborhood and shit after the crash. And then all these military things came in.

1:12:37 Dude y it's worth it. It's worth it. Like in Brazil. I put on an alien documentary like once a year. Netflix does me not. Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's like hey you might like this. I'm like JJ Abrams production company, Bad Robot, they made some UFO mini series. I watched that on an airplane. Did they? That's when you watch that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And so and so I watched this one and I was like, wow, holy shit. Like it's pretty compelling.

1:13:01 Let me throw out a couple of Alternate. Explanations or like supplemental explanations. So one When you see these reports, right, like the vast majority of alien abduction reports are like rednecks getting pulled up by a tractor beam and then having like anal probes put in them. And I'm just like, why is it that all these rednecks are getting anal probed?

1:13:19 Is it always anal probes? What There is a lot of probing typically involved. But it is weird. What's going on there? But why do they return'em? Like take'em.

1:13:29 I don't know. I don't know where I was gonna go is like the reports also Of the appearance of these aliens, right? So What you often see is like the upside down teardrop shaped head with the big eyes, and it's like, Well, look cross culturally, you see these reports everywhere, therefore they must be real. Those types of entities often are cited in, say, certain types of psychedelic drug experiences also.

1:13:54 So what does that mean? Right. Are people having sort of spontaneous drug like experiences that are producing these visions? Is it actually not that these particular alien creatures exist, but that there is some fundamental production of this hallucination based on

1:14:15 endogenous DMT release or something. Who the fuck knows? But I'm saying like there could be a component of that. The other one is my thought is If We take as a possibility that there are Aliens from God knows where we're somehow getting to Earth.

1:14:32 Bye. Like bending the time space continuum to get here from gazillions of light years away somehow in these craft. Mm-hmm. Then

1:14:43 Wouldn't it be Equally plausible that These Craft are sent by Time travelling.

1:14:53 Humans basically like descendants of us that are like wow, we really fucked that up. Let's try to send back like an intervention team. It it sounds crazy. I don't think it's I don't think it's any crazier than aliens figuring out how to get here from a gajillion light years away. panel pro rednecks. Like it's it doesn't strike me as any stranger. Well you you've heard that a lot of these sightings are around some of these nuclear facilities as well.

1:15:18 Like the missile silos and stuff like that. I have, yes. What I'm doing right now is what I always try to do. And This is especially true with things that I feel strongly about. I'm like, what else could explain this? Like what are some possible alternate explanations, particularly when I'm delving into some of the very weird edges of things that I've done over the last fifteen, twenty years with respect to psychedelic assistant therapies and so on. Like some very, very strange reports come back. So how do you cross examine those? one tool in the toolkit is simply to say, let me try to strong man against whatever my current Explanation is.

1:15:51 Right. In the case of the nuclear sites. It seems like there's a disproportionate Number of reports and videos and so on associated with these military sites.

1:16:04 However. You could also look at say the data for like Brain tumor. diagnoses and if you were to look at the graph. of something like that. And I'm making up this example, but I think it's probably true.

1:16:17 It would look like there's an explosion of brain cancer. that among the human populace brain cancer is just on this. Crazy parabolic rise. But It's probably just because our diagnostic tools have become better.

1:16:31 Right. Our imaging tools are catch earlier. They're more sophisticated. Similarly, at these nuclear sites, or especially military sites with nuclear components, what do they have? They have A million times the surveillance of any other place. Mm, right. So it's possible these things are flying around in the Alaskan tundra, but there's nothing there to capture them. So I I think it's Certainly possible those are areas of interest. To me, that would seem to

1:16:57 lend weight to explanations of I don't know why aliens would be interested in that. Time traveling humans, maybe. State actors. Like China?

1:17:07 Oh, for sure. They'd be very interested. Soviet Union, for sure. But some of the propulsion and aeronautic. Behaviors of these Craft.

1:17:19 do not seem to reflect technology that's available to any Current. State actor, including the United States. Which raises all sorts of questions. But there's some very strange stuff out there. It is a very, very, very small single digit. percentage of the total reported.

1:17:35 Or document. Phenomena, but yeah, it's strange. That was my conclusion. If we can ever find a hot spot and we get a chance to go out there. That would be fun. Like just get a group of people go out there and just do like a little UFO. What do you mean? Yeah, yeah. Like a little place where there's a lot of UFOs showing up, you know? There is some of these places that are supposed to be better for like viewing UFOs. Yeah. That would be fun. Just get for like a week. When I was a kid

1:17:58 I remember driving with my mom, babysitter at the time, I think my brother was baby. And we were driving, I remember exactly where we were. I'm not gonna name it, but I remember the exact road and this kind of like cigar shaped thing just went poop. And then just shot off. We all saw it. And I was just like, What the fuck was that?

1:18:16 Yeah. No idea. But we all saw the same thing. Yeah, so Who knows?

1:18:21 There was a fair amount of military testing out there, so maybe. Who knows? That's crazy. Go figure. So that's the aliens. That's all you got for pseudo aliens.

1:18:31 All right, that's all you got. So I'll talk about a couple of things which are not really to predictions. Maybe I have some predictions. Maybe they'll come out organically. So you're talking about protein. I'll mention a few things that might be of interest to folks. So While I've been here, I've been on the go. Also talk about Why I seem so chill.

1:18:50 Which I think I can nail pretty easily to one thing. So the first, and this is a company I'm super heavily involved with, but I mean, I'm involved with it because I believe in it a lot. So these So you've seen these venison sticks. Yeah. Axis Deer venison sticks, Maui Nui venison, it's the most nutrient dense red meat that you can get and the most ethically harvested, in my opinion, red meat that you can get. What's interesting about this one, this is a brand new product. I've been consuming two or three of these today. It's basically a multivitamin. in a me product because it has this is called pepper ten.

1:19:22 And it's got Ten percent liver and heart. In addition to the muscle and it is

1:19:30 Incredible. How much. U free intensity. you get from that. And then the other one, which I don't actually have any official relationship with whatsoever. But shout out to also Peter Tia.

1:19:41 We both know. Who's the chief science officer. This is David. So these David bars have incredible protein per calorie. Ratios twenty eight grams of protein, hundred and fifty calories. So yeah, when I'm traveling, especially when I'm traveling. This is basically.

1:19:57 The kit. Yeah, I do the David Bars too. They're good. One of them was a little too sweet for me, but the the blueberry one's really good. Yeah, some of them are a little too sweet for my palate, but also there is a point where I'm like, I cannot eat. Another

1:20:11 venison stick because I eat so many of those per week. And we're in Maui. meaning my team at Iron Maurit right now because we wanted to visit Now he knew it. Cause Jake Mus is one of the most impressive company leaders and operators I've ever seen, including all of my startups.

1:20:31 In tech. And otherwise. He's so good at talent development. He's so good at culture. And

1:20:39 It's a great example of doing good through a for profit. And I just think that type of model is important to highlight. Because there is a lot of good you can do through sort of market driven solutions. And in this case what Maui Nui venison does, people don't know. Axis deer were introduced, they're originally from India to Hawaii. by King Kamea the third or fifth, I can't recall exactly. They have no natural predators and now there are like

1:21:07 Tens of thousands of these deer. ravaging the landscape. And so they're destroying the ecology. And that has all sorts of downstream effects, literally and metaphorically, including destroying coral reefs because they produce a lot of erosion.

1:21:23 And it's really alarming. It looks like wildfire. Effectively. So what Mamie Kui does is they Harvest his deer, meaning they shoot them in the field at night.

1:21:34 For lowest stress. levels for the animals. And it's incredibly well run. They're sort of Efficiency ratio. Is

1:21:43 As good as say slaughterhouses for Cattle, which are very stressful for the animals, right? They're factory farmed, then they're put into chutes, they're literally held in place, and then Boom, like bolt in the head. this for my money is infinitely more ethical. I mean the animal is wild and free.

1:22:02 living its life until the very instant that it instantaneously expires. Then They package that and they sell it. But what they also do Best way to go. Yeah. Let's just go at a Maui Nui field more like old. Like they'll just put us on the field at some point when we can no longer harness our spinal engine.

1:22:21 It's like well it's time to put Kevin out to pasture. Yeah. Just give him a donut and a couple of beer. Have him sitting at a table. Exactly. Maui Nui. It's all green. I'm like, Tim, why did you bring me the Maui Nui? It's so nice, yeah. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. So What I did here this trip, which I had always wanted to do, but I've never done, is I went on a holo eye. And a holo eye harvest is for the community here.

1:22:47 In Maui. So The Holote food sharing program. The it was created in April twenty twenty as a response to food insecurity in Hawaii, which had a lot of food security issues, emergency level. Caused by the Covid lockdowns.

1:23:00 And what the Maui Nui team did is they completely sort of revamped everything. So they could first just drive venison by the ton straight to the food bank to donate it for communities. And then after the devastating wildfires last year. They completely restructure their operations and this I mean, I got the email sent to all investors and they're like, Hey, look, guys, we are like shifting our focus completely. Two.

1:23:24 helping our communities, which need food. Like this is a disaster level. Crisis. And change their business model and they have shared more than 120,000 pounds of venison, meaning donated since the 2023 fires. It's amazing. So There are a lot of partners and other people who've helped them along the way. But what I did is and my team had the option of participating and they all opted in.

1:23:49 was to go on a night harvest. So their operation is like a special operation, vampire. outing. I mean you go out, they have fleur infrared. cameras and scopes, they have display monitors, they're capturation, which is like a current stop, no shot. Current stop shot and they have Like laser identifications for the rovers who are the people who then go and like retrieve the deer.

1:24:13 And I went through the butchering process. I wanted to get better at butchering. So it's like I actually butchered uh I don't know, six or seven deer on this trip. That's amazing. And Did you take some meat with you or no? Oh, of course. Yeah. I mean the vast majority of that's gonna be donated, but some of it I'm gonna keep.

1:24:31 for myself and send to family members. And so on. But it can be very visually Arresting. It can be confronting for someone who's used to getting food from a conveniently wrapped

1:24:44 plastic packaging from Whole Foods. Yeah. But I find it so Grounding. in the sense that it makes you fulfill

1:24:57 What is involved to put food on your table if you choose to eat meat. And I feel very unconflicted about it. I know there's something I I do too. You feel conflicted, I don't. It's funny you mentioned that because it's like I get if you're a vegetarian or vegan out there and you're like I don't see eye to eye with anything that is being said right now, that totally makes sense to me.

1:25:15 But if you're going and having a burger And like I don't know for me, if I'm eating a burger and I can't put down the animal that I ate it from, like that there's a big disconnect there. Like it wasn't just a couple of generations ago we were doing that. You know what I mean? And like now it's been completely stripped out of our culture. And you know, I don't have the same amount of hunting experience that you did. I went hunting with my dad once, but

1:25:37 You know, when I was I've certainly done a shit ton of fishing and You know, it's not the easiest thing to put down a big ass salmon either, but like You know, you think it's for its life and you make use of everything you can. You know, and it's and it's amazing.

1:25:50 Totally. And they use everything, which is also deeply inspiring. I mean they use everything. Yeah. From these animals. And In their effectively restoring an ecosystem.

1:26:02 Right. Mm-hmm. They are feeding The local community. And they're providing the most nutrient dense. Yes, you can purchase. And they're bringing back traditions of things that like

1:26:14 That's the idea that and there's a lot of chefs that are doing this now where they call it like nose to tail, which is like It's not about just getting the prime cuts and throwing everything else away and being wasteful. It's like cooking all of the different aspects and using all the different aspects of the animal. for either consumption or for product use or whatever it may be, there's no waste there or very little, you know. Yeah. And part of the reason they can do this

1:26:35 is because they are harvesting these deer from private land. So to be clear, The reason that you buy farmed animals for food in the United States because that's what you have to do. You cannot buy game meat. That's illegal. because you don't want people poaching on public land and then selling meat, which can lead to overkilling and all sorts of issues with wildlife management cause imbalancing. So

1:27:00 The operation is incredibly unique. In that respect. And there are actually I don't think it matters to out them here. Like there are a lot of Say.

1:27:11 Vegans or vegetarians. There are I know vegans. This is going to sound like a contradiction in terms, but who object. to a lot of the animal husbandry practices, especially factory farming and so on in the US. So they don't eat meat based on those ethical grounds and they make an exception for Maui Nui. It's the only meat that they consume. So anyway, that was this trip. So my team got to Right around in these.

1:27:34 A TVs and see the displays and really see the process. How does that not surprise me that every single one on your team, like if you work for Tim Ferris and and you're like, you're like, hey, we're going on a hunt tonight, like Is there one person that's gonna be like, oh no, you're like you're fucking fired. No, no, I wouldn't fire them. I wouldn't fire them. I mean it's I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Yeah, you know, it's quite a bit to take it. Yeah. But what I wanted to do, and this is actually not my idea, this is the suggestion of one of my employees. They want it firsthand

1:28:05 experience with one of the companies or nonprofits that I support. And initially we thought about doing something with Amazon conservation team. because I've done a lot of work with them in in Colombia and Suriname and other places. But that would have involved two weeks off the grid. And would have been very complicated from a logistics perspective. Maybe they're talking about your psychedelic donations that you've been doing. Wait, what was this? Maybe they're talking about your psychedelic research, even doing that. I I don't think I feel comfortable sending my employees to the seventeenth dimension just yet.

1:28:36 But who knows? So That's what I've been up to. And then on the Calming side. Yeah. You're like a two on typically like a A nice.

1:28:46 Toasty seven or eight. Simmering. Yeah. So I'd say Chill certainly Hawaii helps, certainly good sleep helps, exercise helps. But Value.

1:29:01 You're like I did three value before I started the show. I've got the Lycus on this shoulder, I've got my morphine drip on the other. No, it's not morphine. It's not morphine. It's meditating twice a day. And Amazing. Yeah. And I've been doing it for Probably a month now and I started it in part. as a response to

1:29:22 A disappointing result from a boos of accelerated TMS. So we spoke several shows ago about accelerated TMS and how My five day About let's just call it or

1:29:35 treatment with accelerated TMS. had the greatest durable impact on my generalized anxiety that I've ever experienced. This includes psychedelic therapies. The accelerated TMS, which is a noninvasive treatment using transcranial magnetic stimulation over five day period in this case, where you're getting treated basically eight minutes every hour on the hour for 10 hours a day. It's very involved. Like when you're doing it, that's all you're doing for effectively a week. And it was phenomenal. And I will almost certainly do it again.

1:30:05 But five days is a lot. And I wanted to see if I could do it with less. So first I tried a two day booster. Might have been a single day booster and it was not enough. It did nothing. Then I went back.

1:30:17 And this is going to California and I did a three day Booster also not enough. So I just wasted a lot of time, a lot of money. trying to round down and it didn't do anything. And I find that very disheartening. It just means I need to go back and do the five days. And figure out the right cadence, but it's very expensive.

1:30:37 to do this and it's very time consuming. So I then was looking at different meditation options and this has you know since become a company that I'm very heavily involved with. But the way. Henry Shuchman. Your man.

1:30:51 Who you initially introduced me to And I've introduced my employees to the way, which is an app. And the sessions, you can make them longer or shorter. I set them at ten minutes. And I was very skeptical because I did TM, you know, transvental meditation back in the day, which is twenty minutes twice a day. And I assumed at 10 minutes like, yeah, it'll be kind of relaxing, but it's really not gonna have much of a cumulative effect. And I was completely

1:31:18 Wrong. Doing ten minutes in the morning. 10 minutes either before dinner or before bed, but making it like brushing your teeth. It's a non negotiable. It's just a non-negotiable. You just do it. Like you would do anything else that is non-negotiable. And doing those ten minutes twice a day.

1:31:36 has been incredible because it has effectively Gotten me to I think a similar level of lower generalized anxiety. that I got from spending thirty to fifty grand to do this experimental TMS therapy. Which that is all inclusive, right? So that's like the treatment

1:31:57 The hotels. The flights. So on and so forth. It adds up. And you can do it for less. That was with a Mag Ventures device, which I think is quite interesting. Brain Sway is another one that's very interesting and works well for a lot of other people. It doesn't have to be that expensive, but for me, I was like, look, let me pay for like the white glove ultra high touch. Best option.

1:32:17 And if that doesn't work for me, I'm gonna conclude that I cannot recommend this. therapeutic intervention because this is as good as it gets. And The idea that you can meditate ten minutes a day.

1:32:32 with an app and people can check it out. Thewayapp.com is the app, Henry Shookman. has the most relaxing voice you will ever hear in your life. And I think the app gives you thirty sessions for free, so you can get a real flavor for it. It's not like oh you get two chances and at least when I used it the first time, I didn't have to use my credit card. And by the way, even though I'm an investor.

1:32:54 because I product test everything and love giving feedback as Kevin has seen I've sent like a million looms to co-founders as product feedback with no I want to pay for it because if there's a glitch In the system. I want to know what the glitch is. And I want to report it. So I paid for it. And you get thirty. So that's either if you're doing 10 minutes a day, that's thirty days. If you're doing two a day, that's two weeks. It's plenty of time.

1:33:19 Either notice or not notice an effect. But what else would you say about About Henry. I will say that what is a challenging thing that to always navigate on the investment stuff, although I love my news. Well, I just ordered the sticks, the ten sticks. Those are gonna be good. They're so good. I'm not an investor there, but I I do love their product. Is like the one thing that you won't see that I'll tell you the behind the scenes is like Tim, I was hitting you up and I was like, Oh, dude, you know.

1:33:43 You invest it, but you hadn't really given it a full deep dive run, right? And you were like, Oh man, I don't know. Like I I really have to like to your defense and your credit. And this shows you kind of like the behind the scenes of why Tim I respect you so much is like You didn't want to ever really kind of

1:34:00 talk about this or really like overly endorse it until you had really put it through. Your own personal. Deep dive. Yeah. And then the first thing is I get on the phone call with the team. 'Cause I d we do investor updates with them or I do investor updates with them because I led their their round every month and they're like Yeah, Tim's like another 10 looms. Like he's he's got all this feedback. He's got all this feedback and he's like and they were quick to implement that stuff, which is often one of the fastest teams. To

1:34:27 Update product, which is not to say they have to take all my feedback or suggestions. They certainly don't. It's their product, but they have been so fast. That's fine tuning the product. I've been really Impressed. Yeah, well they've they've loved the feedback. It's all been super valid stuff. So that's that's awesome.

1:34:47 But anyway, what I would say about it is like you know, I started studying with Henry during before he had an app during the pandemic and you know, this is what really got me into Zen and I think one of the things that meditation struggles from is this race towards the bottom in that There's been a commercial of meditation that says, Hey, do the two minute meditation, no, the one minute meditation, no the like How can I just like productize meditation and sell meditation?

1:35:13 And like This is like a real Zen master teaching course that it's for people that really You may have tried Calmer Head Space, but you want to go deep, deep. And really go for something much bigger here. That to me is the exciting promise of this app because It's not just a hired

1:35:31 Pretty voice on the thing. It's like an actual Zen Master teaching you and it comes through in the the knowledge transfer. It's just y you can feel it, you know. And it's also it's skill development. Right. It's not Pleasant.

1:35:45 Story de jour. Where you're just jumping around. listening to different things, which could be soothing. Maybe it works for some people. It's never really worked for me. Particularly well if I approach it that way. This is skill development in a logical progression.

1:36:03 Which you notice like you recognize it you all recognize as you go through, and maybe you're going through a particular retreat that is themed on hindrances, for instance, and then you're doing a sit where you're focusing on aversion. and you can label it. And then for instance I went out to a dinner two nights later

1:36:24 This was table of ladies who'd had a few too many drinks and they were cackling like fucking crazy. And normally I would just I would sit there just seething, right? And then I'm not proud of saying this, but I would just be like God Damn it. Like You know, I'd wanna exact some vigilante justice. I'd be like, Well, if nobody's gonna talk to her, like how are they gonna learn? And like nobody else is gonna go over there. So I have a moral obligation to like be like, Hey ladies and Then if they're like hey pal, fuck yourself, then I'm gonna be like all spun out and disregulated, sitting down to like eat my cheesecake, like trembling in fury. So I was like, Oh, and it popped up, and as soon as it popped up, I was like, Aversion?

1:37:03 You're experiencing aversion and I used Exactly the skill that I had practiced two days before. In the meditation, I was like Boom, and it defused the whole thing. And

1:37:15 That's what you want. Like you're not meditating in an app just to feel good while you're using the app. That's right. How can you bring into everyday life? And what I also like about it is it doesn't let you skip. You have to Follow the program.

1:37:29 For good reason. You don't get to Skip around indulging your whim and impatience you have to follow through. So if you try to skip ahead, it's like hey buddy. Yeah. Glad you're excited, but sorry, you're not allowed to skip around because this program does X, Y, and Z, so

1:37:47 Yeah. Enjoy. It's good stuff. It's perfect time too. It's New Year's. Like get a New Year's resolution. This is like gonna be This is gonna be a big one for me. You know, it's funny because I'm looking at the number of retreats because I've done quite a few now, and I'm like, Oh God, I don't want this to end. Like, what am I gonna do when When I'm like we're through the entire program. I'm like gonna run out of Henry, but I have so much left. It's great. Also, you're gonna come with me to Seven Day Retreat. We gotta make that happen this year, like an in person one. Yeah, I'm gonna. We'll do a five day one.

1:38:14 Look, I'm open to it. As long as you don't eat a lot of mushrooms before you go fast for six days and eat. Microdose while I'm doing it, probably. Probably overkill. You probably have some PTSD from that one.

1:38:25 Oh, it was not it was. set of decisions. There were there were bad decisions were made on my part. I'd be game to talk about that. So let's talk about actually New Year's resolutions for a second. Yeah. I literally just did my past year review. Which I do every year. I go through my calendar kinda week by week.

1:38:42 I did that today. I also looked forward to the next year. And What I've already been doing over the last month or two, and I'd encourage people to think about this, like instead of thinking about New Year's resolutions, Think about New Year's reservations. New Year's reservations. What does that mean? It means what are you putting in your calendar? If it's not on your calendar, it's not real.

1:39:01 It's like okay, so if you want to like exercise to this and this and this, like Higher trainer. Or book a program or buy a membership. Get time in your calendar, right? So what are your new year's reservations? And for me, the core of that. Is

1:39:18 extended periods of time with close friends. Those people who I know R Going to give me energy. We're going to

1:39:27 leave me feeling better about my life and the and the world and optimistic. Those are the relationships I want to invest in. So I go through the year and for instance January, February, it's like I've rent to the house and it's Stupidly expensive for me. But

1:39:44 I put together a Google spreadsheet and I'm inviting friends to come join. I'll see you late January. I don't know if you saw it's on our on the list. Yeah. I'm gonna buy some skis too. I'm gonna do some skiing. So yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be fantastic. And I'll give you another example and You're invited. I haven't actually talked to anybody about this. I did it on the slide, but next August I booked a week.

1:40:05 in the Rockies for Alpine survivalist training with this amazing outdoorsman. And I'm gonna invite, you know, five to seven guys. Dude, that sounds amazing. Yeah.

1:40:17 So if you're interested, I can tell you more about that. It's gonna be incredible. Yeah, that sounds fantastic. I pay a lot of attention to the details for this type of thing. I've always loved that shit, you know, like with the Eagle Scout and being a boy scout. Like I wanna dig little tunnels that I can like sleep in and shit and the fucking ice and shit. Like I'm I'm totally down. So we'll have adventures like that. And it doesn't have to be a week long. It could be a long weekend. Right. It could be Yeah.

1:40:40 Every year some of my closest friends come and it depends on the cast characters. Like it's not always the same people every year, but for like a annual reunion in the summer of old friends. And in this case, because I do get questions about this, sometimes like, well, why isn't it a mixed group? It's not a mixed gender group because unfortunately in modern society, especially on the coasts where people tend to get highfalutin and fancy and brainwash themselves into all sorts of unproductive things. that there are very few socially acceptable male only Activities.

1:41:10 Or groups. There are just not many options outside of perhaps certain sports environments. So Since that is a rarity. People are by default going to be in mixed groups. I think women's

1:41:22 generally do a very good job and it's socially acceptable to have female only activities and groups and so on. But a lot of men don't have that. Most of my friends don't have that. And that type of experience becomes less and less common. as they get married and have kids and so on.

1:41:41 So For me, I feel like the gift I can give is blocking out a few options for people over the year. Take them away from their wives, you know, for weeks. Yeah, given. Yeah, where they get where they get some time. Yeah, yeah, and then also it's like I think A lot of men in my experience it's like they don't

1:42:02 bond necessarily. And I know I'm painting with a broad brush and there are always exceptions and so on. But it's like they don't bond in the same way that women do, in the sense that a lot of guys just want to not talk and do shit together. Right. And There just aren't many options for doing that. And the beauty of saying setting this up and having reservations, and this doesn't only apply to men, it applies to women too. Like if you don't cultivate

1:42:26 and nourish those friendships, they will atrophy, they will go away. Yeah. It's interesting. I have to convince my wife, Dariet, to like do these social things with women because it's not in her DNA to do that. Yeah. It's like tonight I was like, I'm gonna record a podcast. She's like, Okay, go on going out with my girlfriend. I'm like Awesome. Go do that.

1:42:42 Take some time. Have a moment, go get a massage, like whatever you gotta do, like To prep for the holidays, like you deserve it. And it's so important to have those breaks. It's important to have the breaks and I mean this idea that Can't remember where I read this recently, but I was reading a piece. This idea that you're gonna spend twenty four seven together with your partner.

1:43:01 Is a very new idea. Relatively speaking. Yeah. And get everything and anything from your partner. Unreasonable. That's not gonna work. Yeah, they're they're everything. They end up being your therapist, your partner, your business person, you're like and it's like that doesn't work. Yeah. So I have a number of these blocked out for the year. I try to have

1:43:19 Probably like four or five. And they're not all a week long. And they're not all dedicated time. For instance, like with the skiing. It's like people are bringing their wives, people are bringing their kids. It's like that's a family

1:43:32 Or a couple. Adventure. And then there are a few that are boys only. So the New Year's reservations is something I've done this now for at least five years, maybe longer, where it's like I'm blocking these things out. They're in the calendar. They will not get crowded out by other things. That's a big one for me.

1:43:49 That's great. And then other news. Finished my Nob Nom, which is no booze, no masturbating. Thirty day challenge, which a lot of my readers and fans join me on. I also did no coffee. So I was allowed to have tea, but I didn't do coffee and It was a fantastic reset.

1:44:08 And in the last Weak Not to get to T M I but it's like okay, all of those things have been reintroduced and I'm like Yeah, you just went to town. I really liked the

1:44:18 Cleansing of the dopamine palate. And These can be addictive behaviors, right? All of them. So I think there's a very good chance that I'm gonna be. I have to think about it a little bit just because so many people will be visiting, but very, very either completely dry for January. Oh.

1:44:36 Masturbate. What kind of party is this? I didn't get the memo. Yeah, Tim's back on. Like just give him a few minutes. Like he's understand. He's been deprived of himself. Like he needs to be a little bit more. Is Tim ever not in his bathroom? What's going on? Yeah. So no, that's the alcohol side. So Yeah, all that stuff, I think I might continue all of that for January. Uh, we'll see. But it really was a fantastic reset and I think it contributed to the lowered anxiety and kind of how chill I am right now.

1:45:15 Frankly. Yeah. And there was an interview I think Peter Tia did with a psychiatrist, female psychiatrist, who was saying When somebody comes in and say they're a heavy cannabis user and they use it for like reducing anxiety and chronic pain or whatever. Actually in this case it wouldn't be chronic pain. It would be they're using it for what they believe to be reducing anxiety. But they've developed this

1:45:37 sort of hedonic adaptation to the cannabis consumption. that before she'll prescribe other medications, before she'll work on the talk therapy, she'll try to get them to abstain from, say, cannabise for two to four weeks. And lo and behold, in many cases, anxiety drops to the floor. Yeah. Just by that intervention. Yeah and That was partially what inspired me to do the thirty days of abstinence from these things is to see, okay, what does it look like to reset the system? And it's great.

1:46:06 Nothing against those things in moderation, but like I think For instance with me and coffee, it's like if I'm allowed to unrestrained consume as much coffee as I want, I will consume a lot of coffee. Yeah. And it's easy for me to overconsume. So

1:46:21 I do occasionally I mean look, I've been loving my cold brew. So maybe I'll just limit it to one cup of coffee in the morning, which I can actually do if I'm getting out of the house and getting on the mountain for a few hours. Rather than sitting in a coffee shop. Where it's like there's a fixation with beverages and it's like, Well Or if you're in a restaurant that just like a diner, they keep pouring coffee, you're like, ah, and before you know it, you've had five cups of coffee.

1:46:43 Fine. Some of the things on my mind. What else you got, Kevin? Anything else you'd like to add? I'm on the same boat as you with the alcohol stuff. It's so funny how the last few years if you go back it's been like oh I'm gonna do X number of days and there's been like this hard and fast rule and it was like don't break it just Force yourself through it and It's like one of the things I realized in the last few weeks, especially with all the holiday parties and things that I've had, I'm like

1:47:05 I just have to understand there are gonna be moments when you go out and you have a couple of drinks with friends. But It has to be An occasion. Not just a night at home where you're like, Oh, let's pop a bottle of wine and have some

1:47:20 Alcohol. I would much rather it be about a special moment with a friend enjoying a good meal than have it be Just Yes.

1:47:30 constant thing that just kinda makes you Not hung over, but just not your best version of yourself. You know, like you said about the anxiety stuff. Like a lot of that You don't even realize it because you think that substance is actually reducing anxiety, but in reality

1:47:46 If it's too many times in a month. It's like depleting of all kinds of nutrients and B vitamins and like it adds to actually more anxiety. By just partaking in it. So it's like this horrible thing. And it also fucks up your sleep, right? So I mean the big one is like, Yeah, it's gonna reduce your anxiety for two to three hours. And then you're gonna feel like dog shit for twelve. So And Some people handle it better than others, but

1:48:08 What I've found also is that by doubling down on exercise, like exercise is the lead domino that tips over all of these other habits more easily. Yeah. If I know I have a half day ski lesson that starts it. eight thirty or eight a. Depends on the snowfall.

1:48:27 And then I have more training later that night. If I have had two or three drinks the night before, I'm going to be punished. I there are consequences. And maybe It's not feel terrible, but my performance is terrible. And I hate losing. I hate not improving. I love improving. And it's a corrective mechanism.

1:48:47 I if I don't have that in place. I'm just sitting in front of a laptop and maybe the Performance drop isn't as noticeable. It's not as obvious. Then it's harder for me to hold myself to that line. Perhaps.

1:49:00 But You know, the more movement. More exercise, the more everything else falls in line. My experience. Agreed.

1:49:08 Yeah. All right, man. Well I'm excited for twenty twenty five. I got all shit coming. I'm super. And we're gonna hang um presuming at South by Well, we'll still see you in January, but Yeah, then we're gonna see each other in Jan and then Got a lot of fun stuff coming for South Bay. Yeah, we'll have to let people in on that at a later date in terms of when to come hang with us. But yeah, we're gonna do a little we'll do something. We'll do something on stage and something fun.

1:49:31 Around that time. Keep your eyes and ears. Which should be very exciting. Sounds good. Good to see you, buddy. Yeah.

1:49:40 Happy New Year and happy holidays. Give your fam the best. Yeah, same to you, man. Same to you and yours. And For everybody listening, we'll put links to stuff we mentioned. In the show notes.

1:49:52 Tim.blog. Slash. podcast and we'll put everything in there and I'll give one more rack. Which is I'm totally unaffiliated with this. But in addition to the way I've been listening to a recording

1:50:06 Which was actually sent to me by a friend who took the audio tapes and convert it into MT3, but there's an easier option because I found it on Audible. It's called the present moment. A Retre on the Practice of Mindfulness by Tik Nathan. So Tik Mat Han I've been a fan of forever. And his books had a huge impact on me.

1:50:25 But I'd never heard his voice. I had never heard his voice and this is a recorded Retreat. Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. From TikN and it is Quite mesmerizing.

1:50:39 And I mean he's got the accent which gives it like the necessary level of like exotic Gravitas, which always helps. But I will say that the way sort of greased the groove for me to be more open to this. And

1:50:52 When I've just been like laying in the bath after doing a bunch of activities after my night harvest or whatever, and I'm really sore, I will listen to these chapters from the present moment. Let me give one book recommendation as well I'm not affiliated with. Fire away. By Bruce Grayson, M D. It's called after.

1:51:10 Have you heard of After? I have exited Bruce Grayson on the podcast. No way. Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit. I gotta go listen to that. Was it good? It was outstanding. Yeah, he was really good. From University of Virginia.

1:51:22 Yeah, so essentially this book The subtitle is A Doctor Explores What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond. I'm like halfway through it and I just like I can't put it down. Like it's so good. Professor slash doctor Grayson is a very credible researcher. This guy is not like hand wavy woo-woo guy in beads. No offense to beads, but you get the idea. He's not like the archetype of some guy who's Yeah.

1:51:48 got like a heavy dose of conspirituality and can't really sort fact from fiction. This is a this is a very credible researcher. And He is fascinating. And yet I debated having him on the podcast or not for quite a long time. And then I realized, what am I so afraid of? Like I actually Feel Quite

1:52:05 good about his documentation, the research he's put out. And His observations don't ring as wildly speculative. And these are documentepena. Like people have these experiences. So let's take a closer look at near death experiences. And I'm really glad I did it. Really glad I did it. But I was

1:52:27 Hamming and hawing for probably a year or two. I was worried that it would open the Door to Criticism of not being sufficiently sceptical or critically minded with

1:52:40 Guess, but he delivered what I hoped he would deliver, which is a very Sober. fascinating account of a well reported phenomena that is poorly understood. That he is.

1:52:53 Research for uh Several decades now. At this point. Yeah. Which he became interested in quite accidentally and reluctantly. Oh my God, the story about how he became interested in it and what happened to him is just wild. It's banana side. I won't ruin it, but people check out the book or check when the podcast came out a couple of years ago.

1:53:11 No podcast came out like a few months ago. Oh jeez, I got this recent awesome. Yeah, yeah. That's fun. I'll link to the Doctor Grayson. episode as well for folks after.

1:53:22 Didn't Darry also read that? Yeah, that's how I had it. It was in my Audible library. She's like, You've got to read this. And then when you share an Audible library, you just see what your partner's buying. Yeah, cool. And so like I just downloaded it and yeah it's Been awesome. Yeah. Dig it.

1:53:35 Awesome, brother. Well Lovely to see you, as always. Give a hug to Dar Dar and The kiddos and toasty for me. We'll do. Please pet Molly for me and uh tell your parents I said hello. And happy holidays, brother. I love ya. And I'll see you in Jan. Yeah, love you too, buddy. I'll see you in January. Happy holidays. Happy holidays.

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