BONUS | Ezra Frech Before Dancing with the Stars

They asked me if you had the opportunity to go back and change your disability, would you do it? Today's guest is actually a first. I think he's the youngest guest, but he's also the first Paralympian. As Refract is an American track and field athlete and he won two gold medals at the twenty twenty four paralympics. The opportunity to represent something bigger than myself is one of the biggest points of pride. Is it exhausting though having to be a representative of something? Controlling your mind is the first step to being able to Stoicism is at its core sort of a philosophy built around I was devastated to lose on the world stage. Do you think that's healthy? Everywhere I went in public as a young kid, everywhere. You have people sharing and pointing fingers. You have this idea of what your kid is gonna be. And then it's not about the journey and it's not about the destination. It's about who you become in pursuit of the destination. When I'm on the podium with three gold medals in LA in 2028, we can look back on this and I can say.

I think you're the youngest person on this podcast. So congratulations. Wow. I think so. Uh I appreciate that. No, it's funny you'll go on my resume. I I was for many years always the youngest person to do stuff. I remember I was in LA And I was working at this talent agency and I was working for this guy and he was like He was a movie producer, but he's twenty six, which is like very young. And but to to me, he was like super old. I remember he said to me, he was like it's all very exciting. You're you're young and then you're more successful than all your friends. And then he's like starting at about twenty six, twenty seven, they all start graduating from medical school.

And stuff. And he's like, and then it all evens out very quickly. That's because like I dropped out of college, so I I was like in the mix very early and doing like exciting, interesting stuff. Compared to your friends. Compared to my friends who like this is all around the financial crisis, so most of them like it didn't find what they wanted to do right away because there no one was hiring or they went back to get to go to grad school or whatever. You know it kind of evens out. It evens out'cause most students are in school for an extended period of time and then immediately enter the workforce. Yeah. No, I I resonate with that.

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